Drugs :(

Hello I’m 17 and my friends are talking to me about the new fad “Ecstasy”. I researched it…and from what I read it’s not that bad for you at all if you take it once a month and let your seritonin levels get back to normal. I know this drug is evil but I have no proof. Also I heard that it causes BIRTH DEFECTS for girls. So I kinda had to beg my friend not to do it and got called a “baby” yadda yadda I don’t care I won :). So if anyone can tell me the for real scoop on this drug. (Pure MDMA) I would be grateful. Also most importantly the one about birth defects, see if it’s true or not.
Thanx all this is kinda important to me :slight_smile: :slight_smile:

http://www.cathus.co.uk/hertspol/drugs/ecstacy.html
http://www.doitnow.org/pages/524.html
http://www.abc.net.au/quantum/poison/ecstasy/about.htm

Drugs are, like, bad dude… :wink:

Yeah, I’ve never heard anyone say, “Wow, I’m so glad I started taking/snorting/smoking (insert name of drug).” Only how they wish they’d never started. And I doubt they start off with the hard core stuff!

A girl

OK, after having been a smart ass, I return on a more serious note. Kat, those links were great! Thanks.

R_Dawg, good to see you are doing some research before deciding to do something like that. I tried X in high school a few times and was never really that impressed, although I wasn’t clubbing in high school either… :wink: I’ve thought about trying it again at a club someday, if the circumstances are right.

Whatever you decide, you seem to be on the right track, gathering information and ignoring idiots who try to pressure you into something. Good luck!


“Can’t this lousy rotten useless fucking lump of cosmic shit planet make up it’s fucking mind? It just makes me sick.”
–Dr. Watson

So still no word on if it causes birth defects? I looked at the links and no mention of it. Anyone know maybe a up to date medical site or something?

“new” fad?? X has been a very popular drug for a loooooong time…

Oh, and “a girl” I will happily say that I’m very glad I did LSD, though I haven’t done it in years and years. I learned a lot about myself.



From an actual catalog: “Disco balls create an enchanting, dazzling effect of light shafts, adding movement and glamour to any occasion”
the Abrams’ bris was certainly memorable
O p a l C a t
www.opalcat.com

Opal–

I think most people who have a good trip are happy that they tried it.


-Dave
“Violence is the last refuge of the ignorant.”
-I. Asimov

I’ve never regretted being a pothead for 10 years. Can’t deal with kids stoned, though, so I quit.

I am not known as “nothingman” for, well, nothing. I have been whereof you speak and it is nowhere, nothingness.

Understand that X is not regulated by anyone. Many times what makes up X is a sort of long island ice tea of drugs (that is to say a mix of as many as possible).
Heres the problem : you never know what you are getting. You are, in effect, playing “Russian roulette”. If the X has too much coke you are risking a heart attack (dance to it and this increases), if it has too much heroin and you drink with it you could pass out forever (I had a friend who died this way . . . died. Be aware that this is a chemical mixed up by people you do not know, who do not care about your safety or well being.

I am not aware of the dangers of birth defects. I suppose you could research that on the web. I do know this : if you want to be a good father/mother you need to quit doing this and any other drugs. Having a child equals growing up. This is true whether you like it or not. I hope you want to be a good parent.

Good luck to you. I pray you do the right thing. Be a man. Being a man means you understand that others are now relying on you, even if they are not old enough (or born) to say it.

BigDaddy: Probably. I had a few bad trips here and there, nothing severe though. I think it mostly has to do with your environment and I generally made sure I was somewhere I felt comfortable. I probably did LSD around 100 times… actually probably more than that. Someday I’d like to try it again, but not right now (kids)



From an actual catalog: “Disco balls create an enchanting, dazzling effect of light shafts, adding movement and glamour to any occasion”
the Abrams’ bris was certainly memorable
O p a l C a t
www.opalcat.com

“E” has been around many years. It has been popular in the rave scene for about 10 years. There is no proof of the birth defects claim, I believe this to be pure BS. On the other hand, I have heard claims of brain damage on humans with MDMA, but minimal research has been done. Half the time you get a drug off the street like Xtacy your probibly getting a mix of amphetamines, LSD, PCP, ect… w/ cut which is then stamped into tabs. MDMA is really a amphetamine variant with mild hallucinogenic effects (you get a little wired and trippy).
This is why mixtures of phennies and hallucinogens pop up as “E” all the time.

I hate to brag about this, but I will admit to having done about 40 different illegal drugs, and hundreds of legal/prescription drugs. I have studied their effects and compared them to documented literature and research on them. Mabye I should start a thread called “ask the drug guy,” i’ll think about it.


If at first you don’t succeed you’re about average.

Yeah, they said that LSD would cause birth defects, too, back in 1967-68. That’s the catch-all condemnation from The Man.

Little Banjo and Little Pianola seem perfectly fine to me. Not exactly normal, but they don’t have a third arm growing out of their thoraxes, or anything like that.


Uke

Maybe for you. What applies to you does not neccesarily apply to everyone else. I’m not suggesting that everyone go out and do drugs or anything, but I got valuable positive experiences while on LSD. On the other hand, for me, personally, Christianity is nowhere. I tried it for a long time and found it to be nothing but a negative experience that made me feel bad about myself without any positive effects. Now, that doesn’t mean I tell everyone what their experience with it will be. Likewise, you shouldn’t try to tell others what their experiences with anything will be.



From an actual catalog: “Disco balls create an enchanting, dazzling effect of light shafts, adding movement and glamour to any occasion”
the Abrams’ bris was certainly memorable
O p a l C a t
www.opalcat.com

True I can see where you all come from. But the way the sites make it sound is “yeah it’s FINE to do X but don’t do it more than once a month and drink plenty of water and rest a bit”. So that gives me the perception “OH BOY THIS THING IS FINE!” Yeah shrooms made me find out TONS about myself! Like why I’m so nice to girls (in grade 2 me and my friend made a “doggypile” with 4 girls and he touched them and I got grounded/yelled for weeks cause of it.) So yeah it’s good to do them! Plus admittedly…they are so damn FUN!

Note about X. Very very bad for the central nervous system. I would site a source but I was told this by my family doc. I have a problematic nervous system so I was given an extra stern warning, but I don’t think She would have given me that if it was harmless for everyone. If you must party, and I certainly must, stick with beer and grass.


Having an open mind means you put out a welcome mat and answer the door politely. It does not mean leaving the door open with a sign saying nobody’s home

So, LSD = happiness, and religion = unhappiness.

Ooooooohkayyyyy.

I “shouldn’t try to tell others what their experiences with anything will be”. Right. Well I believe that if you shoot yourself in the head with a gun it will be a bad experience, but, what the hell do I know ?? As far as drugs go, I only had my best frined in college die from X - but hey - the OP should do lots of it !! It could be like Mardis Gras and warm puppies and your first kiss all rolled into one ! So do lots of X and any other drug you can get your hands on, and while you are at it invite OpalCat to come along for the ride. I have been lurking long enough to know she is completely happy and stable !

BTW since when is this MB not partially about each one of our experiences ? I suppose I shouldn’t assume mine are good enough to share, so from now on I will be sharing those of Tony Orlando. (seems being around the BB a long time doesn’t leave you any less suceptible to making an idiotic post)

Finally, I wonder what Cecil would think about your post Opal . . . .

Someone once told me that if you put a gun up to your head and pull the trigger You are DEAD too. I always believed that Guy. Don’t see why you would want to take them if you don’t need them. They are designed for a specific purpose. They are trouble if used for anything else.

My boss’s brother is a pharmacist. He once tested several drugs that were pulled off the streets. A vast majority of the extasy was simply No’Doz, concentrated and reshapen.

I know of a pharmasist that treated himself for something,We’ll never know. He is almost a vegtable now. Pity .Beautiful wife two kids and he doesn’t even know who he is. He was trained to handle the drugs.