Dumbass Prick at my Office

This is so beyond belief that it is almost laughable.

I get an email this morning from Clay, an asshole at my job. It is to a group of brokers for a division. I happen to be included in the group distribution list along with about 25 others.

It is in response to a lunch invitation…he is declining to go and says,

“I can’t go because I’m having lunch with that ho from XYZ Company.”

I am speechless. To say something like that about a colleague of ours on a group email is just beyond the realm of stupidity.

I send one back that says:

"Call me crazy but I don’t particularly find it appealing that a person we work with at XYZ is referred to as a “ho.”

But hey…that’s just me."

He responds:

“Its a guy and Im joking. Thanks for making a scene out of my joke.”

I then respond:

“It was unprofessional and unclassy even if it is a guy. I think you are better than that.”*

*Now actually I don’t think he is better than that…I think he is a piece of shit but hey…I’m trying to be the better person.

He replies:

“Im glad I have you to police me. If you saw how XYZ Company cut us out of the loop with our agents you would agree too. This is an inneroffice email, and I had no idea you were on the list.”

I reply:

"Even more reason to be careful when making a joke everybody might not appreciate…

I’m not trying to ride you about anything…I apologize if it seems so.

I still stand by the fact it was unclassy and I think you are better than that…regardless of whether XYZ Company is at fault or not."

THEN I get an email from his boss:

“I agree with you, but I write it off to the inexperience of youth. The reference is offensive and classless, but at least it was only sent to a small group of people who can consider the source and go on about our business.”

I decide to drop it and just chalk it up to him being an asshole so I respond and say, “Agreed…I apologize for the email interuptions.”

But fucker CAN’T drop it…

“To clarify it is a GUY from XYZ coming over, and for those of you who obviously don’t deal with XYZ, they will cut the wholesaler out in a heartbeat. I was referring to the carrier as a whole not an individual. Get over it.”

WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH HIM?

God, I’m so mad right now I could spit. (That’s Southern for being really pissed BTW)

If you don’t know who is on the list then you probably should be pretty damn careful about sending that type of stuff out, dumbass.

So, was I wrong? How would you have handled this? Did I overreact?

You did just fine, but if I was in your position, I would have contacted him directly and worded the initial E-mail more strongly. Unfortunately, sending the initial E-mail to a group distribution was probably nearly as unprofessional(in some peoples’ eyes), and you ended coming off like “mommy” or the “thought police”.

Sam

P.S.- I can appreciate the value of decorum on a supposedly private group distribution. When in my youth, I sent out a very sarcastic E-mail to a group internally, and somehow the originator of the E-mail(a consumer), was included in that list. In my defense, my father had died that week, but I got fired just the same.

It depends on how busy you are. I wouldn’t have said anything. Assholes will be assholes.

Just leave him at it. Sooner or later he’ll cc the wrong person, and then he’s fucked.

Find an inspirational or religious site that sends out daily devotionals to subscribed e-mail adds and sign his add up.

But, do it on the q-t…

I get an email this morning from Clay, an asshole at my job.

I think I went to high school with him.

How many assholes named Clay can there be running around out there? :wink:

???

I know what “on the d-l” means but not “q-t”.

By the way, ain’t Aries cute when she cusses? I bet Sauron’s ears are burnin’. :wink:

Bless his heart…his ears probably burn quite a lot…I have a mouth like a sailor a lot of times. It’s one of my downfalls.

It means the same thing. On the qt

Can’t believe it’s on dictionary.com.

My rule is never to hit “reply all” unless every single person on the distribution actually needs to read what I’m sending. I would have taken it up with him directly.

How many times have emails been subpoenaed?

If you wouldn’t put it on a letter with the company letterhead, then don’t put it in an email?

I would not have hit “Reply to All” the first time, and I probably would have only responded once.

Unless you were personally offended by his use of the word “ho”, I’d have just let it go after that. Chances are, maybe someone else might have been offended by it and reported him.

You are probably right on that matter. I did apologize to him for seeming to pick on him about the email. He ignored that part I guess.

His whole defense is that since it is a guy then it doesn’t matter and I just didn’t get his joke.

I am more than happy to drop it and just chalk it up to him being an asshole but he keeps sending different emails about getting over it.

:rolleyes:

To clarify…I hit the Reply to All on my very first response…after that I tried to take it privately between the 2 of us…he kept replying to all forwarding my comments.

Shit, I wish I had just deleted it in the first place, rollled my eyes about how stupid he is then just bitched about it at home later tonight. :wink:

Ugh. You made me start twitching with that one. We’ve had that saying seared into our memories through hours of company training.

Good piece of advise though. Right up there with the “cover yer ass memo”

:smiley:

I agree I would’ve taken it up with the email author alone, if I felt it was necessary to take it up at all. I’d be more likely to roll my eyes, talk to my coworkers about what an idiot this guy is and move on. I wouldn’t worry about Clay though. People with that kind of attitude, that insist on being so blatent in sharing it with the world, tend to shoot themselves in the foot pretty quickly.

Just tell that nigga shits squashed and y’all are aight.

I just hope it ain’t an east side of town office vs. west side of town office thing.

Ok…that did make me smile. :slight_smile:

I personally could care less if he wants to call the company or the individual a ho. It is the fact that he sent it out on an interoffice group email list and I have seen people get handed their ass one too many times from doing something like that.

Rather than take it for some sarcastic friendly advice he seems to be wanting to make a crusade about it that I’m some delicate hypersensitive bitch or the PC police.

Next time I’ll just delete his emails without reading them. It’s not like they are ever useful anyway.

Good point. Some people need to learn the hard way. I had to grow up the hard way, too.

Sounds to me like the boss also needs a hard lesson. Maybe a sexual harassment suit? I’m no lawyer, and this ain’t legal advice, but you just might have a case. Contact a lawyer. Maybe you didn’t feel harassed, but you CAN take this time to teach the company an expensive lesson.

Ah well, the lesson will be taught soon enough I guess.

No, I think it was nice to point that out considering… (boldin mine yo)

Since he’s obviously a playa hater, just do …

…and let him learn him learn from the school of hard knocks.

You’re sure this co-workers name isn’t Herbert Kornfeld?

'cause you don’t want to mess with the H-Dog…

That’s exactly right - emails are part of a company’s discoverable records. Clay’s boss should be a little more concerned with how Clay is representing your company, Aries.

For what it’s worth, I think you did basically the right thing - you exercised due diligence in correcting a co-worker’s unprofessional action. His boss should have been the one to do it, but his boss is apparently as clueless as Clay.