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Rolling eyes is fine, but avoids the point. You can’t bitch about all the energy Gore uses unless you also credit him for the work he’s done that reduces it. There are probably millions of people and quite a few corporations who reduced their energy profile due to his work. It’s simply dishonest to pretend that doesn’t exist. You can’t do cost-benefit snark without the benefits. It wasn’t his Futurama guest shots that won him the Nobel Prize.
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Well, if there are “probably millions of people and quite a few corporations” who have heeded his words of wisdom, it shouldn’t be too hard for you to provide some actual cites with numbers to back up the assertion that he’s helping the planet more than hurting it, then, right?
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Rolling eyes is fine, but avoids the point. You can’t bitch about all the energy Gore uses unless you also credit him for the work he’s done that reduces it. There are probably millions of people and quite a few corporations who reduced their energy profile due to his work. It’s simply dishonest to pretend that doesn’t exist. You can’t do cost-benefit snark without the benefits. It wasn’t his Futurama guest shots that won him the Nobel Prize.
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:rolleyes:
P.S.: Please show me where I bitched about Gore’s energy use.
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Well, if there are “probably millions of people and quite a few corporations” who have heeded his words of wisdom, it shouldn’t be too hard for you to provide some actual cites with numbers to back up the assertion that he’s helping the planet more than hurting it, then, right?
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Burden of proof is not on me. I have not made “the assertion that he’s helping the planet more than hurting it”. I’m not trying to prove it’s true, just that it’s part of the equation. The original claim, whether stated explicitly or not, is that Gore is a hypocrite because he uses so much energy.
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It is like Al himself-who jets off to some conference to decry America’s energy wastage-while not a word about HIS extravagance-he probably uses as much energy as 25 Chinese families.
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I pointed out that this is bad reasoning. He goes to conferences to do things that promote energy efficiency. There’s no a priori reason to think it’s a net loss. Nor is there one to think it’s a net gain, but you can’t pretend that there are no benefits to what he does.
**Siam: ** As for replying to you, you replied to me first. You chipped in with
This has nothing to do with my point, and seems to be confusing two topics. On rereading our “conversation”, it seems like I’m talking about Gore and you’re talking about Earth Hour. I assumed you meant this as a snark about the Gore part. If not, I apologize, but wonder why you brought it up in a reply to me?
My bad. I was talking about Earth Hour. Somehow it got caught up with Al Gore.
No problem. Easy to mix up threads online.