Ed, WTF?

[Nzinga_Seated]

Colibri, if you really wanted Sapo to drop this and let it go, you should have skipped that entire explanation. Because you have just given him enough fodder to make a game of Latin Knifey-Spooney look like a Mexican spork fight.

No way are we going to be on an internet message board, trying to avoid the terms of internet speak when talking to other members of our subculture.

If ‘bring pie’ means ‘fuck your grandpa in the arm pit’ in the black ghettos of America, I am not about to complain if someone on the SDMB who happens to also be from a black ghetto says it to me on the SDMB. And mopping the floor with your ass was clearly in the context of debate. I have been asked on this board in the past not to express my perception as fact, and I never really thought I did that, but damn it, I am doing it now. I am expressing it as fact. He did not mean that shit as a physical threat in any shape, way or form, period. Now cut that out.

[yojimbo]

@Colibri

Ed has expressed his intent of restricting the amount of abuse that moderators have to put up with. When I agreed to be a moderator, I was well aware that taking random crap from pinheads came with the territory. Those who are familiar with me know I’m not particularly thin-skinned. But being abused in the Pit has never been my favorite part of the job. If Ed wants to make our job as moderators a little bit easier, that’s fine by me.

You weren’t acting as a mod on this occasion. You started the shit as a poster. It was the PIT and someone bit back at you. Only then do you hide behind the Moderator thing.

Sapo is a fucking arsehole but he’s right on this occasion and you have come across as very thin skinned and petty. Maybe you should just stick to official moderator posts and stay out of the PIT.

[Muffin]

@Hostile_Dialect

So if you came at a (hypothetical?) Canadian mod with something considered a grave insult in Canada but mildly abrasive in the US, what would you expect that mod to do?

I would expect the mod to not trump up a threat charge when there was no threat.

Also, I am not aware of any insult in Canada that is so grave as to justify trumping up a threat charge when there was no threat.

[sailor]

I always wondered who would come out on top in a fight between a hummingbird and a toad. Now I think I know.

This is surreal.

[Loach]

@yojimbo

You weren’t acting as a mod on this occasion. You started the shit as a poster. It was the PIT and someone bit back at you. Only then do you hide behind the Moderator thing.

Sapo is a fucking arsehole but he’s right on this occasion and you have come across as very thin skinned and petty. Maybe you should just stick to official moderator posts and stay out of the PIT.

I wrote a long post explaining my position very clearly. It got eaten. But it pretty much was what yojimbo said. Only longer.

[Cat_Whisperer]

@Hostile_Dialect

[<snip>
So if you came at a (hypothetical?) Canadian mod with something considered a grave insult in Canada but mildly abrasive in the US, what would you expect that mod to do?
<snip>

I would expect that mod to remember that we are posting in the culture of the US and not lose his mind and start flinging official warnings around. Also, what Muffin said. I could probably come up with something fairly rank depending on something personal about the hypothetical mod, but I don’t think calling any Canadian a Trudeau-lover is going to result in a knife fight.

[Q.E.D]

@Muffin

Also, I am not aware of any insult in Canada that is so grave as to justify trumping up a threat charge when there was no threat.

I’m gonna hose your mother, eh?

[SoulFrost]

@samclem

Just because you can find an internet page that talks about what “butthurt” means in internet parlance, it may have more significance in street speak in Latin America. And, perhaps not the term “butthurt” but the implication. Or didn’t that occur to you?

Dear god, everybody watch your implications in the Pit!

[Q.E.D]

That’s ok, I don’t imply things in the Pit, I come right out and say them. It’s much less confusing for everyone.

[emmaliminal]

Oh, go eat your mother’s couscous*, alla y’all**.

*Except those of you living in or originating from Arabic-speaking communities where “couscous” is slang for “cunt”.

** Except those of you living in or originating from northern US communities where “y’all” is an insulting grammatical error, or those southern US communities where a carpetbagger tossing off a “y’all” is incitement to a brawl.

[sailor]

@Q.E.D

I’m gonna hose your mother, eh?

What is the implication here? That you like to hose dead people? That in Central America it is insulting to hose dead people? That in Soviet Russia dead people hose you? That the kinks in the hosing are kinkier that your average Lake Wobegone kink? That in the hardware store hoses are in aisle 5, by the ladders?

Because depending on what I could give you a warning, a commendation, a silver star, or 20 cm of butthurt (now called heartburn).

[magellan01]

**Colibri,
**
I’ve no problem with you, but even if I’m very generous in accepting what you offered in your post, it seems like you still fucked up. As did Ed. I suggest you pay attention to the posts subsequent to yours. They spell things out pretty well. Neither your actions or your explanation and putting you in a good light here. Maybe it’s time to embrace the possibility that you, and Ed, fucked up. Welcome to the human race. (Sorry, Ed, that’s not intended as an insult to you.)

[Sapo]

I’l give you this, Colibri, sometimes you’re good for a chuckle.

(and I reserve the right to be horribly offended by all this if it ever suits my needs)

In consideration to my new perspective on you, please allow me to change my original post to:

Non-homophobic Ay caramba! much? I look forward to letting you mop the floor with your own sorry ass all by yourself when you try to make a production of it.

And although I don’t want to go TLDR with this, I want to highlight my favorite part:

…my main intent was to try to embarrass him …

Let me know how that’s working out for you.

Cheers*
Sapo.

*I swear this doesn’t mean anything dirty in Spanish

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For the remainder of the audience, and although I think/hope the clarification is completely unnecessary, I want to make clear that despite Colibri’s desperate pawing for the moral upper hand, there was never any form of sexual connotation to my use of “butthurt”.

It will come as no surprise that I say this since Colibri was already clever enough to preempt me with “Sapo no doubt will claim he meant something else”.

Colibri no doubt will quickly come with quotes that prove how I have used concealed Spanish insults before or even homophobic speech.
“Cada ladron juzga por su condicion”. Try that for size, Mr Latin expert.

[DudleyGarrett]

Hey everyone, look at the souls of my feet!

Bring pie, infidel motherfuckers!

[Pedro]

Double identities are so cool. There’s mild-mannered, progressive Colibri to US americans and knife-fighting, machoman Colibri to latin americans. Almost like a spy movie. Don’t let them catch you alive dude!

I can imagine the conversations already:
US friend 1: Dude, that’s so gay. Are you coming out? Want a dress to go with those shoes?
Colibri: ROTFL sure, to fuck your wife without pants on for a change!
Latin friend 2: Hehe why, does your butt still hurt from the last time you did?
Colibri: * karate chop to the throat * Say WHAT motherfucker!?

[RedFury]

Colibri, if you are going to present yourself as an authority of sorts in all things Latin American, I am rather surprised, given your profession, that you’re apparently unaware if the cultural implications of frogs in Puerto Rico. In particular they have two species indigenous to the island that are not only rather famous, but again, form part of Puerto Rican lore. One of them is the “coqui” and one only need visit Pto. Rico to find its image on all sorts of tourist souvenirs and the other is the “sapo concho” which, as you may or may not know, is an endangered species. Thus coquis and sapos are easily identified w/Puertoricans.

In fact, I hadn’t noticed this particular poster until recently but once I saw his peculiar syntax and his user-name – and trust me, no Sherlock I – it wasn’t that difficult to conclude that he was Pto. Rican. So your implications on his user name and what he said are quite nonsensical – granted, I am originally from Spain but probably have as many years as you living in L.A.

BTW, how would you translate this particular American idiom, “butthurt” into Spanish? Because nothing I am coming up with makes any sense – much less thinking of “pulling out a knife over it.”

Take your pick: “duele-culo” o “culo-duele” neither one is an insult I’ve ever heard in Spanish. If you want to go that route I can see using “a tomar por el culo” or “que te den por el culo”, but AFAIAA, those are actually Spanish/Spain insults, and by and large, we use them more as friendly banter between friends than we do as insults.

Seriously, I honestly think you took this whole thing to a level that was totally unjustified by either the preceding posts not the subsequent actions.

Be a man and retract your bullshit.

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OTOH, now that I’ve seen some of Sapo’s posts and followed some links provided to prior petty complaints of his, it does seem like the guy is a busy-body intent on showing that he can “bring down The Man” or whatever Quixotic BS runs through his mind – or worse yet, as you imply (and here I can agree w/you) he is just being a dick and getting into TPTB faces just to get a rise out of all of you while at the same time playing to the gallery.

I guess Warhol’s “ten minutes of fame” can now be interpreted to include the Internet. Fuckin’ retarded if you ask me, but there it is.

[brownie55]

@RedFury

OTOH, now that I’ve seen some of Sapo’s posts and followed some links provided to prior petty complaints of his, it does seem like the guy is a busy-body intent on showing that he can “bring down The Man” or whatever Quixotic BS runs through his mind – or worse yet, as you imply (and here I can agree w/you) he is just being a dick and getting into TPTB faces just to get a rise out of all of you while at the same time playing to the gallery.

I guess Warhol’s “ten minutes of fame” can now be interpreted to include the Internet. Fuckin’ retarded if you ask me, but there it is.

But where is the threat threat was given as the reason for the warning?

[Pedro]

@RedFury

Fuckin’ retarded if you ask me, but there it is.

Have you noticed how nobody ever does though? Take the hint already.

[RedFury]

@brownie55

But where is the threat threat was given as the reason for the warning?

Never said there was. Read the preceding paragraph.

[Sapo]

@RedFury

Colibri, if you are going to present yourself as an authority of sorts in all things Latin American, I am rather surprised, given your profession, that you’re apparently unaware if the cultural implications of frogs in Puerto Rico. In particular they have two species indigenous to the island that are not only rather famous, but again, form part of Puerto Rican lore. One of them is the “coqui” and one only need visit Pto. Rico to find its image on all sorts of tourist souvenirs and the other is the “sapo concho” which, as you may or may not know, is an endangered species. Thus coquis and sapos are easily identified w/Puertoricans.

In fact, I hadn’t noticed this particular poster until recently but once I saw his peculiar syntax and his user-name – and trust me, no Sherlock I – it wasn’t that difficult to conclude that he was Pto. Rican. So your implications on his user name and what he said are quite nonsensical

FTR, I am Venezuelan. I moved to Puerto Rico only a few years ago, after a long stay in FL.

I am not sure Colibri was making any implications on my name. Other than saying that it means “toad” which it does.

I don’t think there is a good translation of butthurt into Spanish (or even a bad one). The idea is simply not there. There are many good terms for what butthurtmeans, and many good terms for homophobic slams but none of those would translate to butthurt. “Culodolido” has a funny ring to it but nobody would know what you are talking about.

In line to “a tomar por el culo” (an expression that I never understood but always found hilarious), Venezuelan males use “marico” all the time in a way not different to how Americans use “dude”, even if the dictionary will tell you that it is a derogatory term for “gay”. “Marico, pasame la sal” is perfectly acceptable at the dinner table as long as grandma is not around.

Anyways, my apologies for fighting ignorance in a perfectly good pile on.