Nah, it was stated that no human had ever laid eyes on a Romulan, and the treaty was signed over subspace radio. Kirk and his bridge crew were the first to ever see a Romulan’s face.
So what do you know from ears, Mr. Smart Guy?
^:)^
I suppose they could see them a hundred years earlier if they didn’t see the ears or they didn’t know they were Romulans.
Anyway, get some excuse ready, cause surely the Romulan War will be in this series and it will be boring as hell not to see them. Hmm, of course it could be one of those “Unbeknownst to Captain Archer, but beknownst to us” things.
We’ll see their ships, but not their faces… oh maybe a charater would but they won’t live to tell, helmets or not.
Also Romulan ships are pretty distinctive, as stated in “Balance of Terror” all Romulan ships had warbirds painted on them. And don’t expect to see any cloaking technology either… “Balance of Terror” showed that the first cloaking proto type was just developed.
As long as this Temporal Cold War doesn’t screw with the established time line (And damn them if they do!) We may see Romulans but none of the characters will.
Actually when you think of it if they do it right the Earth/Romulan war could be intersting. A fight against a faceless relentless enemy, that allows for no quarter.
I don’t think it would matter it they see the ships, there is a hundred years or so to go. The ships could look differently than they do in TOS.
I think Future Boy is a Romulan.
If First Contact could change history regarding the Borg for Voyager, B&B will probably feel free to have Future Boy change history concerning the Romulans.
There is an upcoming episode where someone with superior technology (which could be anyone) and a cloaking device (which is 100 yrs early for the Romulans) messes with them.
Screwing with two excellent TOS episodes Balance of Terror and The Enterprise Incident whould really hack me off.
I also was disappointed at the need to resort to time travel - AGAIN - this soon. Are they really that impoverished for ideas? Sad.
My physics question was, after the bay decompresses, would the Suliban have “fallen” out and “down” toward his ship when he swan dived towards the doors?
Oh yeah - why do they assume everyone they meet is stupid. E.g. Trip going major basic on describing the warp drive, without asking the experience of his audience. I liked it when they did their happy dog, “Hi! Hou ya doing?” to the transport captain and he said, “Hi - what do you want?” Not everyone is just out banging around the universe to see things and meet people.
I am so tired of hearing, “Let’s go take a look” like the Enterprise is the family minivan on roadtrip and the stellar nursery is the equivalent of The World’s Largest Ball of Twine. Or “Let’s say hello.” Hope you brought brownies for the new neighbors.
He would have been blasted out as would have Archer.
He wouldn’t fall and there wouldn’t be any parachuting crap with his limbs, either. I am giving them the benefit of the doubt that his species and ‘enhancements’ can survive in a vacumn for a few seconds.
The gas wouldn’t be that dense. I’m sure that the gas clouds astronomers see are in as Mr. Sagan would say ‘billions and billions’ of cubic kilometers space. Hell, in cubic light years of space.
Unfortunately, it was stated in TOS that we never saw the Romulans because the war was fought before the invention of viewscreens… whoops. Well, maybe it was fought before the Romulans invented viewscreens… yeah, that’s it.
Oh, and did anybody think that maybe the far-future guy didn’t know what the near-future guy was doing because far-future guy was LYING to us, and he comes from the same time as near-future guy? God, I hate time fu-fu. Why couldn’t they just leave that out?
I think the fake gravity generator is separate from the fake atmosphere generator.
I liked this episode – they have learned from the contrasting examples of DS9 and Voyager that a continuing story makes for better television than a series of unrelated adventures with a big honkin’ reset button at the end of each one. And I like the ambguity of Daniels’ character – we know that time travelers generally want to hide their identity, so as soon as he started answering Archer’s questions I knew there was something hinckey about him. I’m looking forward to learning more about this in the future, but not necessarily the very near future.
–Cliffy
I agree completely. I just consider it unfortunate that they bypassed all of the rich possibilities for such a continuing story inherent in their situation, and instead tried to whomp up some time travelling aliens.
No, this was correct. The doctor is a culture geek. In addition to his comment that carniverousplant quoted, I remember him waxing enthusiastic about food on earth. Or maybe he’s a new experience geek. I wonder how old he is supposed to be.
Hoshi, however, is just a language geek. She doesn’t seem to care about different cultures at all, except in that they have a new language for her to learn.
Or maybe it was before the invention of viewscreen standards. You know, like having a Mac talk to a PC.
Did anyone else think/hope that Daniels was actually Wesley Crusher? (It would amuse me that Wesley the wonder-boy turned into such a dweeb) Didn’t Wesley get recruited by some sort of time-traveler? I’m betting that Daniels didn’t actually die - he hit the emergency return home button just before he got zapped. And there was that odd comment Daniels made about Starfleet.
A) In “Balance of Terror” when asked, by Kirk, what would a Romulan ship look like after 100 years Stiles responds that they would be marked with the Bird of prey. Stiles was well versed in the history of that war (Family History/ hoping to see a Captain Stiles to complete that loop) so I would have to infer that the Romulans of Enterprise’s time would have those markings, but not all of them.
B)Who is our mystery man?
I think it is… baa baa dumm dum Daniels (the visitor from the future) I remember watching the opening and paying close attention to the look of the shadow and then we see scenes of Daniels before he reveals himself and I thought Hey that guy looks like, naw couldn’t be…
Just a guess but I’ll say that there really is not two sides but maybe two Daniels… Or one with a totally convoluted F’d up agenda. Or how about we’ll meet him time and time again and he keeps getting killed and he ses this from the future and it makes him nuts and…
Ok I’m going too far but I do believe that Daniels and the Mystery guy are one and the same
Cool. Good point.
Again, cool. I am reminded of Captain Braxton From Voyager who was a good guy in one episode and became a bad guy to prevent all the bad stuff he had to endur in the previous episode…maybe you had to see them.
I’ll watch the Canuk tape again.
I think they were funkin’ with the shadow of Future Guy so he had a non-constant silluette (or however it is spelled). I wouldn’t be suprised if the two sides of the Cold War were actually the same sides at different times, but i haven’t seen this episode yet (it is on at a random time tomorrow in St. Louis).
Of course, Future Guy is Emperor Palpatine, so really he is Long Time Ago Guy.
More about the interphase generator on the hand
(the thing that allows the wearer to ‘ghost’ through
solid walls).
How does he keep from falling through the floor?
For that matter, how can he still breathe and talk? He should effectively be in a vacuum.
And how come we can still see him? If his body isn’t interacting with the electromagnetic fields of the electrons in the matter he’s walking through, why is it still interacting with the electromagnetic fields of the photons striking him?
And how did he hold on to the gun which the other guy handed to him? Shouldn’t it have fallen though his hand?
The “walk through walls” device is a pet peeve of mine. It’s one of the stupidest things they’ve ever done on Trek.
Silly people, he was wearing it ON HIS HAND. Now perhaps if he had worn it on his foot…
And as far as holding a gun, he was wearing it ON HIS OTHER HAND!
Sheesh. Don’t you folks know nothing?
Didn’t see a promo for next week’s episode. Are we back to reruns already?
Someone was mumbling about “multiphasic two dimensions” or some semi-techno babble.
The in-show explanation is that the device is sophisticated enough to handle all that. Or it never would have been produced.
–Cliffy