Enterprise - Love it or hate it?

Did anyone notice that they had a cook?? If you don’t remember, there’s mention of a cook when some ensigns or whomever bring the captain’s dinner.

Wow, no replicators. I wonder how they will be able to last long unless they come back to Earth every once in a while for resupply.

I’m having a hard time telling the difference between the Weapons Man (Reed) and the Chief Engineer (Tucker).

So is the Comm. Specialist (Sato) gonna need some gel rubbing? :smiley:

kasuo:

I hope so. Hod help me, but I hope so.

Oh, another Treknobabble[sup]TM[/sup] moment I forgot to mention. They don’t have energy shields, right? And during the battle someone reports to the Captain that “hull plating is offline.” Offline? What the hell does that mean? Did the actual rivets holding the plating to the hull come loose, and the plating floated off into space? Is the plating like Venetian blinds, and it opens after it’s taken too much damage?

“Hull plating is offline.” Braga, you are some piece of work.

Earlier, Archer gave an order to polarize the hull. I assumed the hull plating comment meant the polarizing thingie was busted.

drop the theme song

light up the set a little bit more way too dark to see, more than enough needed for mood

I like the relatively cramped quarters

I like the old fashioned uniforms, but they disappear in the dark

enough with the meshuganeh time travel crap

transporter used way too early -should make it much more difficult to use - maybe have to stop the ship or something, tie up all the computers, take hours to set up

this could be a chance for the writers to show that the humans are better at some things than the Vulcans - here they make the Vulcans look supercompetent but anal (or is that a Vulcan to begin with?) and the humans too emotional.

I like the dog, but maybe they should have the Vulcan babe react a lot more dramatically to it -or the dog to her.

I thought the decontamination gel scene was gratuitous - who the hell needed that guy there? I can see how some people were upset at the coed aspect. May I suggest that in the future they have the translator babe and the Vulcan babe smear each other with goo. Then they wouldn’t have to keep the underwear on. And light it better too. Only trying to help.

Not for Vulcans, apparently. It would ruin the lines of the outfit.

It’s Enterprise, not the Enterprise. They were pretty conspicuous about this once or twice (notably during the fight on the roof when T’Pol said “Enterprise needs her captain!” I think B&B are using it to try & distinguish this Enterprise from all the others, and I’m happy to go along.

–Cliffy, who’s always taken aback when his TiVo program guide refers to “The Voyager”

Please don’t take offense (or think of me as a Trek elitist), but I’ve just go to say:

What planet did you grow up on?

Having made my little joke, I have a few comments about what I saw and what everyone’s been saying about it.

Vulcans usually avoid shaking hands because they have telepathic receptors there. That’s why they touch a person’s face when they mind meld. It has been mentioned several times that it is rude to touch a Vulcan, both because of the telepathy thing and just the fact that they are very private people.

So, T’Pol should never have allowed Tucker to rub his hands all over her, nor would she have done the same for him. Just a dumb scene. (Though I’d like to invite Jolene Blaylock to do many similar scenes for us to watch. Just not while she’s playing a Vulcan.)

On the other hand, many have said the Vulcans were too emotional. Not necessarily. Many have noticed that Spock and his father, Sarek, are actually particularly cold as Vulcans go. No doubt, Sarek expected a lot from himself, and Spock had to live up to that. Not to mention overcompensating for his human half. Of course, I’d expect Vulcan ambassadors and their aides to be more controlled than most, but maybe Vulcan thought the humans would work better with less disciplined Vulcans. (I know, that doesn’t sound like the way they’d think. But still, it isn’t strange that some Vulcans aren’t as in control as Spock or Sarek).

I’d like to end by complementing Phil (The Bad Astronomer) for his excellent explanation of the Rigel problem. That one jarred me when I saw it on the show, but Phil’s take on it makes sense to me. You’ll have to go to his site and read what he said.

I was distracted by the large number of people watching it with me and the fact that the TV reception went out many times during the show, but thought it was not so good. Kind of bad even. I’ll agree that it may pick up later.

I’m studying linguistics and the translator said that the Klingon languge has adaptive syntax, variable syntax, something like that, suddenly I can’t remember what exactly she said. Anyway, this sounded fishy to me, though I wasn’t paying enough attention.

Adaptive Syntax? How does this work? I don’t think it is a current linguistic concept. As I understand it, it would meant that their grammer changes according to the situation. Now, this seems remotely possible (they are aliens after all), but if it is possible, it seems like a simple thing to program a translator to deal with the problem.

…and 80 dialects, The point being that most of the things are new and don’t function as well as they will (did) in the earlier (later?) series.

^:)^

I’m surprised that no one has mentioned that the show specified the speed that Enterprise was travelling at warp: 30 million kilometers per second, which works out to 100c.

If the maximum warp speed of this ship is 4.5, this puts some constraints on exactly what warp means.

(Or has this been canonically established already?)

Don’t love it, don’t hate it. But I think it has a lot of potential and I’ll keep watching, for now. I’d have to agree with most of the comments already posted, except I guess I’m not a geek, since the science flubs don’t bother me. There was something about the ambiance that did bother me, but couldn’t put my finger on it until seeing the posts here about the lighting; too dark. I liked the character T’pol and her reactions; what I didn’t like was the obvious, infamous seven-of-nine ploy: let’s put a cat suit on her and emphasize her boobs so we can pull in more testosterone-laden adolescents. (I didn’t notice if she was wearing high heels like seven-of-nine. And what’s with those lips? she have a quack do her collagen injections?) I like that the characters are more “human” – showing more frailities; I could identify more with them than with characters in other ST series. And, oh yes, Archer in his underwear was a nice touch. (Oh, okay, guys you can have liver-lip T’pol if I get to see Archer in his underwear some more.) :smiley:

I’ve only scanned this thread so I may have missed it if someone’s already commented, but oh my frickin’ god, christ on a pogo stick, shoot me now if that theme song is going to be around for the next seven years.

lawoot wrote:

Ooh! Ooh! This is not the first time this has happened!

Remember Star Trek: The Motion Picture ? Remember when Captain Decker escorted the woman-shaped “V’Ger Probe” into a room with some pictures on the wall and said to her, “All these ships were named Enterprise”?

Well … the pictures on that wall were of:[ul][li]An old wooden sailing ship[/li][li]A 20th century aircraft carrier[/li][li]A space shuttle orbiter[/li][li]An unknown ring-shaped space ship or space station, and[/li]The NCC-1701 Enterprise from the original 1960s Star Trek TV series[/ul]Which means that, not only is the space shuttle Enterprise part of the Star Trek universe … but the NX-01 Enterprise from the latest Star Trek franchise isn’t!!

Just as 60’s television equipment could not resolve the ridges of the Klingon forehead, film technology of the late 1970’s distorted the appearence of Enterprise NX-01.

^:)^

OK, now I’ve seen the whole episode (mostly…I found myself sort of distracted throughout for some reason).

Theme song. Sucks. Sucks long and sucks hard. And not in a good way.

What was the deal with, which one was it, Tucker I think, flailing around in zero gravity? Astronauts today have zero-G training; it seems unlikely Enterprise’s crew and Star Fleet wouldn’t.

Was Hoshi supposed to be teaching at Star Fleet Academy? Interesting that the students weren’t in uniform.

Thumbs up from me on the decontamination scene. It looked like the gel-coated gentleman was also giving it a thumbs-up. Or something. Agreed that it’s odd that this “spore” or whatever doesn’t live below the panty line, and also wondered about the possibility of mind-meld.

I really hate it when the writers throw in some completely ridiculous social custom like “Vulcans don’t touch food with their hands.” Really? How do you fix it without touching it? And inevitably a few episodes from now we’ll see T’Pol eat something with her hands and we’ll all be in here screaming “see?”

I happened to be looking away from the screen every time they used intraship communication. How was the call received? Did anyone touch a control a la the wall panels with buttons in TOS? More broadly, it looked like the technology aboard ship was more advanced than in TOS. Touch screens and the like. I don’t buy the “the 60s show had technical limitations so it’s OK to have more advanced technology in the prequel” excuse.

carnivorousplant wrote:

Groooooan … and I suppose movie sound recording technology of the late 1970’s also distorted Han Solo’s “real” words (whatever they were) so that it came out sounding like he said the Millennium Falcon could “make the Kessel run in 12 parsecs.”

They’ve been using artificial gravity for a while - at least since Ensign Merriweather was a wee sprog - he was raised on starships sey to .8G if you’ll remember his discussion with Reed. 0G training isn’t neccessary to function on a starship, and if still given is probably ignored by most trainies.

And Tucker was mostly reacting to the shift from 1G ‘Down’ to 0G, to 1G ‘up’.

No, she wasn’t. She mentioned a few times in her discussion with Archer that she was on leave from Starfleet at the time.

Too bad. That’s the facts of the matter. Enterprise can’t be given technology below ours, even though ours is unimaginably advanced compared to the 60s - so much so that what we have now is far more advanced than what they thought a space-faring civilization could have at the time.

the one thing I found kinda funny was the grappeling hooks for a tractor beam…talk about low budget there.

No, but 1969 radio distorted Neil Armstrong “One small step for A man…”

:slight_smile:
Hey, they will * really * laughing at it in 100 years.

Tengu

And what happens if, as in Undiscovered Country, the artificial gravity goes out or is compromised? The crew is just going to float around helplessly because they decided to blow off zero-G training that day? If the early space program could figure out the need for zero-G experience, I find it hard to believe that Starfleet would dispense with it or allow trainees to skip it.

It can if the creators want it to be. At the very least there should be a blending.