Ha! brewha is now trying to come up with a reasons not to lynch himself. The Town has a ton of mislynches left, they can afford to mislynch him. He’s definitely Scum.
Agree 100% - he’s been squirming for a while now. String his ass up!
Hey guys, since this game is winding down, but I know a lot of people who’s opinions I respect are posting here and possibly not reading the offboard site. I put up a new article on the wikithat deals with general mafia game design advice and I am looking for some feedback to help refine it.
Please, let me know what you think either on the discussion side of the article or on the thread I started offsite. And, it’s a wiki, so feel free to just go in and edit if you have thoughts.
While I would tend to agree with this and think there’s good evidence to lynch him, that much doesn’t seem to be particularly present so it’s not really relevent. So let’s look at it this way:
Let’s say he’s pro-town. He is unconfirmed and he is thus mostly expendable. That said, it would seem logical that he can just take his lynch like a man. However, if he has an ability to mostly self-confirm, that is a pro-town motive because he can get confirmed and they can get on with lynching someone else. At this point, it’s not a guaranteed victory for the town; it’s still mathematically possible, though incredibly unlikely, that they can lose. If his self-confirmed plan has no downsides, which on cursory review it does not, then there’s no reason for him not to suggest. I would think that the most pro-town thing to do would be to that, if he believes it to be true, but also to continue to provide analysis since, if he is pro-town, that means someone else must be scum and he should be providing useful information and not be turning the day into an argument about whether his suggestion is worth it or not.
However, the suggestion that he should just take his lynch is either lazy town since, even if they won’t change the lynch, they should be using the extra time to work out potential scenarios and get some analysis done; or it’s anti-town because the true scum wants to stifle the discussion and keep himself from being analyzed.
Let’s say he’s scum. What’s his motivation? A scum suggesting he’d be blocked and knowing he couldn’t get a kill off somehow would have no reason to suggest such a thing and he should know that if he can’t follow through and is suggesting he’d get lynched Tomorrow, which he absolutely would if he can’t follow through, then he should forfeit now. That means that, he probably has a methodology for circumventing a block and possibly did ran into a protect last Night (or maybe will try it tonight) which is why he’d recommend that he be blocked and no one be protected OR he has some kind of important one shot ability that could still save the game. It’s not that dissimilar from what I was suggesting when I proposed that I pass a message because, really, why would a PFK be able to pass a message? I’d hoped it wouldn’t seem reasonable that I could pass a message if I were PFK or scum (I could), that it would be presumed to be mutually exclusive with my kill (it wasn’t), and thus I’d be less likely to be either and live through the lynch to at least get off one more power (one that could have potentially saved the game for me, even if the scum decided to kill me that night). For all apparent evidence, this and the town scenario are both possible.
IMO, the town should discuss his “plan” briefly, and essentially conclude, based upon the actual evidence and not because he’s as good as any other unconfirmed. They should then ignore him and start looking at the other unconfirmed and lynch on evidence and not be lazy with the whole idea that it’s hard for them to lose.
That said, regardless of whether brewha is town or scum, he should give more information about his magic bag, admit that he’s a reasonable choice but because he’s somewhat confirmable, based on his assertion, that it makes sense to maximize their position and lynch him Tomorrow if he lies. He should then drop the topic and start posting some useful analysis. He’ll almost certainly be lynched either way, but it’s in his best interest to play as pro-town as possible, and in a way that would otherwise be anti-scum even if he is scum.
You don’t mind if I register there and go crazy, do you? 
Please do.
I think this game is done and won.
Good job guys. Nice try Brewha.
FWIW I believe we just passed the 2 year anniversary of the start of the first mafia game here on the dope.
9th Feb 2007.
It would seam the game structure has become a little more complex since then.
It blows my mind that we only started playing 2 years ago. It feels like so much longer.
Agreed, and you were there from the start. Feel like reminising? I think you and Cookies are the only people from the first game that still regularly play.
I think I’m hurt.
Crap, you should be. I forgot you were in the first game. I most associate you with M2 in my mind.
JSexton and OAOW were definitely in that game. I’m pretty sure that Kat was too.
Edit: Kat definitely was, now that I think of it. Somebody said something about the werewolves eating Kat and she made a crack about being strangely turned on by that post.
Does OAOW still play? I think you are right about Kat though.
I could actually look up the list of players, but I rather enjoy making a fool of myself.
Of course you do - you work in the theatre! 
Honestly. My BA in Theater Arts that I wave around whenever I try to get a job that pays me real money should be proof shouldn’t it?
It does seem like we’ve been playing a lot longer than 2 years.
I’m sure there’s some conversion between real year and Mafia years we’re forgetting…
Aww. But M1 is where the 3rd vote meme got started, remember? Popping Menocchio the Alpha on the flimsiest of all scum tells?
Good times, good times…
Good lord that’s right! That would never fly today, but it isn’t the only time it’s worked. We seem to catch newbie scum every 3-4 games who have 3rd voted (even if that isn’t why we go after them).
So long ago, and not that long ago all at the same time.