Given what he has revealed, I happen to know what BlaM’s role is due to some very minor assistance I provided with the set-up of this game. I won’t reveal what he is, but I will say that whatever his role is, his play is coming across as incredibly scummy to me. I would not hesitate to lynch him were I playing. He’s dancing so fast he’s making ME sweat!
I feel the same way Shadowfacts for the same reasons.
I’d lynch BlaM no matter what my alignment was- just because he’s using TERRIBLE reasoning to justify his “towniness”.
“Look guys, I have a non-lethal ability! You guys can TOTALLY trust me! Hurr hurr hurr, forget the fact that Freddy Krueger and many other psychotic villains loved to taunt their enemies before they killed them! I SWEAR I’m Town! hurr hurr hurr”
Go, go, JSexton!
What’s the vote count? I’m very curious to see the lynch results.
I totally get why everyone wants Blaster Master dead. I do too. But for me, the sloppy way he goes about yelling “I’m town, really! Here are incoherent reasons why!” doesn’t strike me as a scum play. I don’t really know how to explain it though. As scum, its a ridiculous way to go about getting oneself out of a jam. As Town, its just plain ridiculous… BUT, I can at least see a townie being so self-involved that he only sees his own townness and can’t see how others will perceive his ranting. In other words, to a town-aligned Blaster Master all of his actions seems ‘obviously pro-town.’ He just isn’t capable of seeing himself in any other light.
But there are so many other reasons to lynch Blaster Master. If only he had claimed before he was the top lynch candidate. If only he wasn’t pursuing a randomized playstyle strategy that is clearly anti-town. If only he answered questions and requests thoughtfully and in a way that shows he actually has been paying attention to the game.
He’s put himself in a position where town pretty much has to lynch him. But I’m happy that he will swing since I don’t like the “random playstyle so you can’t tell when I’m scum” strategy.
Prior to today JSexton was at the top of my scumlist, but his posts today have been spot on. If Blaster turns up scum that would be a big point in JSexton’s favor. If Blaster Master turns up town or PFK then I’d return to a neutral feeling.
He only has one hour.
MHaye’s playstyle is another that annoys me. He thinks I hate him for it, which is not really fair to me. I dislike his strategy, not him personally. I simply think it hard to analyze someone who only posts his thoughts at the very end of the fucking day. It’s so self-serving. Not quite as bad as varying style from game to game to set-up a scum win for oneself, but I would totally adopt a “when in doubt Vig MHaye” policy simply for this reason. MHaye gets a pass though since there are plenty of worse “lurking” offenders. So if MHaye gets vigged in a future game on Night One, I probably did it.
With half an hour to lynch, Blaster Master has suddenly become cogent. He’s still gonna get it though.
Oooh, a possible tie with Zeriel’s miscolored vote hanging in the balance.
MHayes end of day vote reminds me of another reason why I don’t like his playstyle. When I was scum I hated committing to a vote. I would very much have preferred to wait and see what everyone else was thinking, the direction the wind is blowing, and see who is vulnerable. Scum voting early have to put forth reasoning and motivation that may very well not pan out. Then they have to move the vote and justify that. All very messy.
MHaye avoids all this by waiting until the end of the day to see everyones cards before acting.
Yeah, MHaye should be killed as a matter of policy.
A well written death scene, Story, I was suprised by the John nash thing, and loved the Clue cutaway… and then the leaves line was PERFECT.
You, sir, are still what I aspire to be as a storyteller. :bows:
Also, yeah, once I saw the Predator was in there, I knew there was a 2nd SK in the game (as, I REALLY REALLY Loved the suggestions in the pre-game of the Great SK Kill off (and that’s what the +2 by Preddy meant), though I was REALLY disappointed to see both the SKs go out in really weak ways, they should have lasted MUCH longer than this… kinda a bummer…)
Though I thought we had come up with 3-4 diff. variations of the SK game, so I didn’t know which one was in here, the Predator was a delightful suprise, and then the dreams thing started my leaning towards Freddy, so yeah, Sorry Sach you didn’t think he was scum, but i KNEW he wasn’t town cuz I got to see the pre-game…
I think only the Riddler has been the “successful” PFK of being allowed to live by the Town and nearly achieving his goal, since then though, the TOWN HATES all roles that claim to have helpful abilities that aren’t standard ones… And usually it’s for the best…
Plus, the winner of today’s Day by Moi: **Netlaw **for his pointing out of the “Bummer, buddy” by Storyteller in BlaM’s PM.
That shoulda been a death sentence right there for BlaM.
Welcome to the dead side, BlaM. Better luck next time.
I’m surprised the kill count has been as low as it has been. Town was lucky, I think. And is now in a good place.
I can’t believe JSexton is still smudging Total Lost. I consider her and Cookies both confirmed at this point.
If you like, we can switch up–I’ll take MHaye and you take peeker.
yeah, i don’t trust JSexton in the game right now, but I always get that vibe from him, so i dunno.
The only thing I will say in my defense is that I played this one for me to win. Maybe not in the spirit but just to win the damn thing. I did the same thing in sach’s game.
Theoetical question: when you have your opponent on the mat, do you extend a hand to keep the competition going or do you just give it to them in the neck?
I am much more of the latter persuasion.
how did you do that? you only had 2 points?
You shoulda kept going to rack up points dude.
Unless you think your death sold him out… which I totally woulda done if i were alive and in your shoes. If I knew the other SK was alive and figured out who he was, i’d sell him out and hope to kill…
But i like staying alive and messing with the players… So i guess I’d choose the former…
While I wasn’t certain that Blaster Master was scum, I certainly did not think he was not scum (double negative!). I like to point out both sides of the argument for the case against anyone (really, everyone should) because no one will act all scummy or all townie. It’s the balance that matters. My point was I could see Blaster Master’s illogical rantings as a plausible Town blind spot. That was the one point against a mountain of reasons to kill him (reasons he’s anti-town). I rarely get to the point where I’m certain someone is scum. One simply can’t do that in this game. Hawkeyeops insistence that Cookies is scum is a good example of how distracting it can be. Maybe he’s right, but he could very well be wrong too. All that I can really say is whether someone deserves to be lynched, Cookies does not and Blaster Master most certainly did.
Also, I think I saw the pre-game stuff too. It’s slowly coming back to me. So in terms of “figuring the game out” I’m disqualified. But in determining who is scum… I’m still playing.
I’m fine with that.
- MHaye
- Blaster Master
- peekercpa
As for the low kill count, I think that’s what storyteller meant by Blaster Master having bad luck. BM had three nights to kill someone and wasn’t very successful. I wonder if he tried to kill pedescribe but failed due to doctor intervention. I see that as a plausible possibility since Blaster Master was really trying to push that angle as reason to keep himself alive. Possibly to flush out the Doctor into speaking up. BUT Blaster Master said he did this on Night one when there were three deaths (presumably one by Blaster Master). So does that mean there were four killing factions on Night one? That doesn’t make much sense to me. Blaster Master’s bad luck aside, that’s a big drop in killers from 1 to 2 and 3. Also, pedescribe said there are 2 PFK. hmmmm.
What really gets me is that the places where I really screwed up with my claim weren’t caught at all, but people were sticking to silly things about color and stuff. So, yeah, I was lynched correctly, but for the wrong reasons.
FTR, the wording of my response to NAF was deliberate, but it wasn’t intended to be dodgy, it was intended to look dodgy. The whole point was that I wanted it to look dodgy with the idea of “why would scum do that?” The worst part is the whole “scum would never do that” has become the new “third vote is a scum tell”, in that now when stuff looks like scum would never do it, because assume it not must be something scum would do.
Either way, I do maintain that a lot of people who were pushing my lynch hard were scum, and I wasn’t lying when I think that JSexton is almost certainly scum. On the plus side, at least I left a lot of confusion for the town to deal with as punishment for lynching me.
Oh, and damn you storyteller for the most horrific luck possible.
I don’t think peeker knew who he was, though. But Blam definitely recognized peeker after the whole Fluffy the Dwarf thing. (Notice how fast he voted peeker.) That was one of the cover names on the board they were allowed to taunt each other on. (Which only they and story get to see.)
I was really hoping for a more epic battle, though. It was kind of a letdown.
Well it’s kind of a DUH that Blam knew who I was after my quote. I was trying to win no matter what. When I looked at the information that was given me I had already eliminated a whole host of folks as being clanky.
Check my post on the boards and you will see that I already kind of pegged it right.
My shelf life on these games is pretty short.
When you get a lead you go into four corners if you have a short stack. Boring as hell but it gives you the best chance of winning - who cares what the peanut gallery says.
Of all people, Hoop, knows that I will do anything to win.
I was up, smoked BM out and won.
Bad form, you betcha. Good result for me, Double you betcha.
Is it supposed to be different?
but if blam had kept his mouth shut for 2 more days… couldn’t he have gotten away with it and potentially earned the kills, Peeks? You didn’t KNOW that BlaM would out himself the next day, so it was a risky move to make… How did you “smoke him out” exactly?
There were (are) some intracacies of this game that are just so pure story.
Suffice it to say that between my PM and some interactions that I was pretty sure of whom my adversary was.
Remember “off board” communication was not only anticipated but, to some extent, encouraged.
That definitely played into that no good, cock sucking, piece of shit, worthless use of oxygen, should have had a twin that was nice, dick cheney kind of being that we call blam (just kidding, kind of, you know, like maybe, well yes, ok yes it’s all true) being a prime adversary.
'Course I figured this out long after I was dead.