Wow.
Yeah, so anyway, NY Times has a story today clearing up some of the details in this story. It seems that Suspect 2 did NOT have a gun inside the boat, for one thing.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/25/us/officers-killing-spurred-pursuit-in-boston-attack.html
We don’t know why he’s being deported, but if the police, in the course of interviewing him (even as a witness) find out that he’s overstayed his Visa, are they just going to shrug their shoulders and carry on?
Never mind that we don’t know if anyone actually has been deported as a result of such questioning.
The M for Mike stuff is hilarious.
yes, could we have a link to the story that says someone was questioned and then deported? I must have missed that.
I’m also getting the impression that magiver feels that, if someone was deported after questioning for something completely unrelated to the bombing, we should be given details.
We, randoms on the internet with no interest in this except curiosity, should be told about another random dude’s deportation, because our rights to have our curiosity satisfied trump everyone else’s rights to anything.
The DJ that told the original story in link above (he lived in the building that bomb #2 was in front of) about leaving his apartment with his wife who is recovering from cancer treatment and two kids and having victims of the bombing blown into the lobby of his building just talked about residents of the building finally being let up to their apartments the other day (they still weren’t allowed to move back in).
Someone on the air with him told him he heard that since people just up and left their apartments, they left their pets behind, and when they finally were able to return, they found that their pets had died. The DJ confirmed that that was the case.
Oh, that’s horrible. Imagine the poor pets waiting for their owners. Surely they could’ve been allowed in long enough to rescue their animals?
StG
In the original story he told, they had left their apartment so fast that they left his wife’s medication behind that she needed since she was less than a month out of cancer treatment. They were not allowed back in to get it, so he had to go back to the hospital to get more medication.
Just how long were they barred from their homes for? And it’d be really easy to pick up a cat or dog or small caged animal - it’d take literally seconds.
From the day of the Marathon when the bombs went off until Tuesday when they were finally let back in for a few hours. It was the day they re-opened Boylston St - 8 days. (They HAD to be out of their homes prior to the ceremony where the victims and their families visited where the bombs went off)
It would take the same amount of time to grab a pet as it would to grab medications, but people weren’t allowed to go back for that either.
I haven’t been following the details of the case too closely, but I just read this accountof the timeline from the NY Times.
I’m amazed by the level of idiocy shown by the Tsarnaev brothers.
Although they already have a gun, they kill a cop in order to steal another one gun. This is maybe the single best way to draw every cop in the world down on your location. And then they can’t even figure out how to unlock the holster to steal the gun.
One of them boasts of his involvement in the bombing to the car-jacking victim. Then they allow him to escape and spread the alarm, immediately linking them to the manhunt for the bombers.
They don’t realize the car-jacking victim left his cell phone in the vehicle, allowing the police to track them.
In the course of the gunfight, Dzhokhar runs over his brother in his attempt to flee.
:smack:
Add to this the fact that they thought they could plant these devices without being caught on camera. The younger one, in particular, made no effort to obscure his face as he walked through the crowd.
I think that’s why they didn’t flee immediately after the blasts. They thought they’d gotten away clean without anyone spotting them. Then, when the police plastered their stupid mugs all over the internet, they panicked and tried to make a quick getaway.
It occurs to me that security at the marathon was to some degree designed around the assumption of smarter attackers. There was a bomb sweep *before *the race because a smart bomber would know there was no way he could plant a bomb during the race without being spotted. Unfortunately, the Tsarnaevs were too stupid to realize that.
It’s now being reported that the Tsarnaevs considered driving to New York and trying to leave some bombs in Times Square. This is one of those ways in which people are lucky that the remaining Al Qaeda types are dropouts and rejects. Guys who knew how to plan and didn’t attract so much attention to themselves might’ve been able to pull this off. These two botched it in almost every possible way - the only thing that worked was their bombs.
That is ridiculous. I’d like to know the reasoning behind keeping people out of their homes for over a week and letting their pets die of thirst. What the hell were they doing in the street that couldn’t be done with residents allowed home for half an hour a day?
It was a crime zone, with terrorist overtones and the potential for mass deaths. Yes, it’s harsh that pets died as a result but I’m not all that broken up about it in the grand scheme of things.
Yes, it was a crime scene, but did people really have to be kept out of their homes for a whole week? I know it’s not a big deal in the scheme of it but it just seems unnecessary.
I bet you’d be more “broken up about it” if it was your pet, though. And did leaving their pets to die do anything to prevent terrorism?
The apartments weren’t crime scenes. There is no logical reason for not providing the means of entry for a week. A path could have been secured within hours for people to travel on with an escort to ensure nothing is distrurbed. This was blatant, deliberate, and avoidable animal cruelty.
Boston Globe has an interview with the carjacking victim. Early reports that the bombers let him go were incorrect (wrong information again, shocking, I know). He escaped, which makes a ton more sense.
Good for him.
I’m sure I would be sad if I had pets in the zone, but since I had friends running literally feet from the explosions and friends working at the finish line who were first responders I’m glad they took the time to fully investigate the scene. There are a lot of things that are easy to say in retrospect that aren’t apparent at the time.
Preventing people from contaminating the crime scene may have done things to prevent terrorism. It’s probably impossible to know for sure.
What do you think the first responders were doing at the crime scene if not contaminating it?
The apartments were not involved in the event.