I thought that was Asses and Elbows.
I thought those were towns in Thailand.
I have had this same thought. I guess folks like Clothahump’s friends think along the lines of “Well, I’m attracted to that big hairy man, and I’d like nothing more than to feel his big strong arms around me. Every man must feel the same as me. Good think I’m choosing to be straight (at least in public)”
One of my friends recently got into a debate on Facebook (I know) with a guy who said “It’s really hard to choose to be straight all the time” with a (NPI) straight face. All he could say was “It isn’t if you’re actually straight.”
Frankly, I’m not sure when that wasn’t known. We have been able to communicate with gay people pretty effectively for quite a long time, thanks to them speaking the exact same languages as us straight people. To my knowledge, not a single one has ever said they chose to be gay.
I suppose people who think it was a choice must have some kind of weird condition and just hear dolphin chattering or Charlie-Brown-teacher-horn when gay people talk, and hence don’t realize that the lines of communication have been open and clear for a while.
For the luvva Og…
You and Eyebrows both apparently suffer from a total lack of reading comprehension.
This issue is not about me or my views. It’s about a viewpoint that I am hearing from others that I asked for opinions about. Is that clear enough, or are the two of so damn dumb that I’ll have type r-e-a-l s-l-o-w so you can follow along without moving your lips and drooling down your chin as you read?
Shit…I don’t know why I bother any more. This board used to be worth the money we paid every year. Now it has turned into a troll-hole for piss-ant liberals who do not have any clue whatsoever about discussing things. You simply look at the poster and if they are conservative, you promptly start pissing on them for no other reason. No damn wonder we have so few conservatives posting here any more.
So humpy is an asshole douchbag?
Who knew?
Oh, that’s right, every-fucking-one.
Replace ‘conservative’ with ‘drooling asshat’ and this makes sense.
I don’t know why you bother either. You should probably leave forever.
Doorknob. Ass.
These “others” are ignorant assholes, and you are a fool for repeating their stupid, asshole opinions here.
Anyone with a grain of intelligence would have known that these people were stupid fucks who should be ignored. But you chose to repeat their ignorant fuckery here.
Concern troll is concerned.
Wait, you actually pay to post here? Man, if I didn’t think you were dumb before…
How many times in an average day, Clothahump, do you find yourself choosing not to be sexually attracted to another man? Is it more or less often than you find yourself choosing to be sexually attracted to a woman?
Probably pays to watch PBS too.
Anyhoo, it appears that April 2013 is the last call for people deciding that it is utterly illogical to hate gays and lesbians. All people remaining with that attitude really ought to give it up and start being really quiet about it.
Funny, I was thinking the same thing. “Why does Clothahump even post around here with this shit?”
I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt and let you admit to your views on homosexuality being a deviant “choice” have changed, but that doesn’t seem to apply.
So, run away clothy, run away and never return.
Clothy, if you could, please elaborate on how it’s a choice. Is any one of these sequences what you are thinking? Which one, if any, is closest?
- Person A is only attracted to the opposite sex.
- Person A, although not attracted to the same sex, has a (non-sexual) desire to be attracted to the same sex.
- Through sheer will, or perhaps by forcing him or herself, has sex with same-sex partners for which there is no sexual attraction
- Eventually, perhaps by force of habit, Person A find him or herself sexually attracted to the same sex.
OR
- Person A is only attracted to the opposite sex.
- Person A, although not attracted to the same sex, has a (non-sexual) desire to be attracted to the same sex.
- Through sheer will, or perhaps by forcing him or herself, has sex with same-sex partners which there is no sexual attraction
- Person A never really finds him or herself sexually attracted to the same sex, but manages to slog through homosexual sex anyway, to justify the choice.
OR
- Person A is only attracted to the opposite sex.
- Person A, although not attracted to the same sex, has a (non-sexual) desire to be attracted to the same sex.
- That is enough; the simple desire to be gay results in a newly-awakened sexual attraction to the same sex that did not previously exist.
OR
- Everybody is actually naturally sexually attracted to both sexes.
- Person A, in an attempt at self-identification, decides he or she is gay, and henceforth only has sex with the same sex. However, this person could still choose to have sex with only the opposite sex, or both.
OR
- Everybody is actually naturally sexually attracted to the SAME sex.
- Because of societal norms, most choose to ignore their desires for the same sex, and have sex with the opposite sex.
- A few choose to simply go with their natural homosexual desires and self-identify as gay.
You’re trying to make him think? How cruel!
Deviant!
And here is the crux of the problem. Because if you have never heard that viewpoint before, you haven’t been paying attention. If you have heard that viewpoint before, you are lying. And if you think the viewpoint is plausible, you’re a stupid bigot.
And so you get reactions fitting for someone who is a lying or clueless stupid bigot. Voila.
I know this is bucking the local consensus, but I don’t think that genes can determine behavior as completely as what some of you are making out. Environment also must play a part or much of what I learned in college (and since) was dead wrong. Personal choice must influence behavior as well, or my own experience and observations are completely invalid. I’m not working the job that I have, married who I married, and living where I live solely because of my genotype.
It seems awfully convenient that both sides of the argument have science supposedly on their side. I have my doubts. In any event, I have no problem with a person deciding to be gay because she likes it better than being straight, like Cynthia Nixon said she did, as it’s harmless. I also have no problem if somebody decides he or she is gay because they have no choice in the matter because of uh, genes ‘n’ stuff, if that’s what makes them happy, because that’s also harmless. I think that the correct response to the question “is being gay a choice or is it genetic?” is “what does it matter so long as people are happy together?”