Disagree.
L.A.N.P. Leggings are Not Pants is a huge meme and has been for a while. Like jean shorts, I’m sure that certain people will wear them to Walmart for the foreseeable future. But that doesn’t mean the battle is over. I’ve seen groups of women giggle and mock other women for wearing leggings as pants very recently.
It’s not as ubiquitous as shorts. It probably won’t ever be.
It’s a huge meme among old people. Don’t get me wrong- I am among them. But the war is over. I ride the train with a few hundred high school and college students in the morning, and most of them are in some form of legging. These kids have never known a leggings as anything questionable or controversial. They are just clothes to them, and likely will remain that way.
You can’t understand why someone wears pants that are comfortable and convenient and really wishes people won’t stare at her for doing so? Maybe she is being optimistic and not beaten down enough to say forget it, I will forgo these comfortable pants because of others.
I haven’t surrendered the hat indoor fight yet, I’m just getting started on leggings as pants. If the Korean War hasn’t officially ended yet, we have time.
I think it is more the ‘I’m going to wear something that shows off my body then get upset when people notice my body’ thing that is bothersome.
That is like if I were rich and I went around wearing $10,000 watches and driving a $100,000 car and got upset because women kept liking me for my money.
I confess, I wear yoga pants to work almost every day. I gained ten pounds over the holidays, and what with the depression, those pounds aren’t coming off very fast and none of my other pants fit me. Yoga pants are extremely comfortable, I always wear a thigh-length cardigan or tunic with them so my ass is covered, and there’s no dress code at work. So until I can fit into my other pants, the yoga pants are staying.
Riiiiiiiiight…
Why are you assuming the fat ladies who wear leggings are the same ones who are getting upset when people “notice” their bodies? Not all women want to be “unnoticed”.
And what do you mean by “notice” anyway? I don’t care if someone does a double-take at something I’m wearing, behind my back. But if someone’s glaring at me or shouting “DAYUM” at me, then hell yeah I’ll probably be ticked off. These are not biological reflexes. They can be controlled with just a little bit of mindfulness.
So am I. Sooo… a man posts a thread which demands that we explain why he’s being subjected to unattractive women, and you turn it into a “women are the ones dragging each other down” thread?
I smell cognitive dissonance.
One of my male buddies only likes to date and f*** women who weigh a minimum 300 pounds. He calls it ‘going whaling’ when he’s on the chase. Those heavier gals are probably showing off themselves in the yoga clothes. There’s no need to be judgmental. Big girls need lovin’, too. Just don’t stare if you do not enjoy the view I say.
Me too. I could see Wesley’s point if these kinds of threads were always started by women. But we never see this. I wonder why?
I like to have Monstro agree with me. Girl power!
Rather than graciously leave this thread and admit I’ve been beaten, I’m going to do a W and double down on my bad argument.
Bam.
Are 97% of men telling women they are ugly everyday? Nope.
I think of yoga pants like I do wife-beater shirts: if you’re not built for it, you shouldn’t wear it. If you are, stop showing off!
You know those clever nouns and adjectives they like to put on the backsides of tight pants these days? Well maybe fat women like to wear them because there is more space to have actual complete sentences! Maybe even paragraphs?
I’m sure Monstro agrees with me here.
Maybe people should just wear whatever they want and any onlookers that don’t like it can feel good about themselves for being judgmental pricks: everyone wins!
Yay!! Internet good guy!!
Do you think that women are self-conscious and critical of their bodies for no reason? That it’s in a vacuum? It’s because they’ve heard other people criticize their bodies. Or they’ve heard people criticize women’s bodies in general, and know that they would be included in that.
And it’s not just fat women. Average size women can hear men talk about how some Hollywood star like Jennifer Lopez or Christina Hendricks or someone is too fat or pick apart their bodies, and think “if they think those gorgeous women are gross, then I must be the most disgusting thing ever.”
Straight men and gay women are not trying to attract men, and also are the least likely to have eating disorders. Gay men and straight women are trying to attract men, and are more likely to have eating disorders. I don’t see this as a coincidence.
I agree… just about every woman I know is far more concerned about how other women are going to perceive her makeup/clothing/hair than men. Even the good looking ones… maybe even especially the good looking ones.
I mean, you can take a hot woman (say… Katy Perry) and put her in some knee-length cargo shorts and a baggy t-shirt with hair in a ponytail and no makeup, and she’ll still be hot to the vast majority of men. Conversely an unattractive woman is still going to be unattractive even if dolled up and wearing well tailored clothing appropriate for her age and body type. It’s the ones on the fence that really see benefits from the clothing/makeup/hair effort, IMO.
But women will pick that shit apart like you wouldn’t believe; like it’s a moral failing to show up in public with bad hair and no makeup, and ugly clothing.
That’s what most women are trying to avoid, not men thinking “Hm… not going to imagine her naked” or “Not going to save that image in the mental spank-bank.”
I don’t know what planets ya’ll are living on. Maybe I’m the one who is the alien.
I know two women who carry on this way. Two out of eleventy-billion. Most of the women I know realize that everyone has an opinion, but that their opinion has precedence over what “everyone else” thinks. They may want to be stylish and fashionable, but they aren’t constantly worrying about what some nameless woman at the check-out counter thinks.
If I had to come up with a crude generalization based on my experience, I’d say that women tend to dress for two people primarily: herself and her SO. If her “man” is fine with her style and she’s fine with her style, then the opinion of the nebulous “they”–whether they be male or female, coworkers or Wal-Martians–doesn’t matter all that much to them.
Most women do harbor some degree of internalized body image issues. But that could be anything from “OMG! My ass is so BIG!” to “OMG! I don’t have a big enough ass!” Maybe the fat lady in the yoga pants is of the latter persuasion. Who the fuck knows.