And to give the Sheeple the idea that a “Special Master” will declare the search null and void or something. I know a dude on FB, a actual lawyer, 
and he posted now twice about this Special Master thing being some sort of “win” for trump.
It will have no real effect.
This “Special Master” stuff keeps making me think of @Master_Wang-Ka.
Hence my point of being concerned about the Proud Boys and other militias. But not Christian Nationalists as a whole.
Most of those 51%, @Temporary_Name, are just your everyday Evangelicals, mixed among the various churches. I’m not saying there aren’t any radical groups, just that Christian Nationalists aren’t really one of them.
I’d say about half of my church friends would fit into the category mentioned above. I actually didn’t realize how weird the idea was until I came to this board.
Here you go:
Top-level FBI agent under fire for role in Hunter Biden investigation resigns
The article notes that Thibault has reached retirement age. Grassley’s letter may have convinced him to take his pension and leave instead of sticking around. Still, there’s no news of anything even remotely actionable on Hunter’s laptop, and certainly nothing to exonerate tRump.
Yeah that’s my thought as well. Probably just decided “To hell with this, I’m not going to become the Trope of the old veteran agent who gets gunned down by some right wing nut job just days before retirement.”
I am sorry, I really have to ask if you read the article and watched the inbedded video of them reciting their prayer? I have been in churches for decades, and went to a Bible College back in the day-- but I have seen very little as extreme as this!
Here is why I dismiss the overtly military groups like the Proud Boys, Oath Keepers, and Three Percenters: As special as they think they are, they are no match for real troops and very small in stature. I am sure they could hold their own against a similar sized group, and could obviously infiltrate someplace and cause short term damage. But if they ever overtly declare a war against the US Government they will be ended as a group with most of those involved doing serious time.
But churches are different. They use unsuspecting believers to accomplish their goals and funnel huge amounts of money around to do it. Please take a look at the linked thread if you have not… They are big, well funded, and organized. There are a number of books and articles in that thread that lay out how far their influence reaches and it is frightening!!
Lastly, based upon your description of your church friends . . . . I do wonder if your church resembles this:
ok, the white one isn’t a bass, and that sure ain’t Greg Lake, but one can always dream fantasies, no?
Man… I haven’t laughed so hard since I used to watch Jimmy Swaggert and/or Jim Baker.
That’s an outstanding link by you Temporary_Name. Thank you!
I’ve never read it before, but it consolidates much of the bits and pieces of information that I have mined over time.
-Just confirmation bias on my part?
No.
Because it exists and people live and believe this stuff.
No, because that has nothing to do with the claim that I was refuting. You used a citation that said that 51% of people in the US were Christian Nationalists, and that this was what concerned you. I’ve been pointing out that the vast majority of those are not in any way shape for form organized. It’s just a common position.
It’s like if you posted a video purportedly of BLM being violent and some article defending that. I’m still going to point out that BLM is not a violent protest group. Similarly, I’m telling you that Christian Nationalists are not some huge threat.
I already allowed that maybe some smaller groups might actually be a threat. But those are the various militias, which are much smaller. Any other groups are not organized for violence, by their very nature.
You’re not going to convince me that the Christian Nationalists as a whole are a threat when it comes to this particular situation. Most of them won’t join with Trump at all, and most that do are not willing to put themselves at that level of risk.
We need to have a realistic idea of what the outcome will be, not believing things that aren’t possible.
Say what?
Moderating:
There’s a whole thread created to discuss what you think will happen if Trump inspires militias or other types of attacks. Please note this thread is to discuss the FBI’s search and seizure of materials from Mar-A-Lago. Please cease these hijacks and continue your discussions in this thread, if you wish:
You can link back to this thread to reference a post to which you were responding. Thanks.
That’s the MissTeen USA contestants, right?
No disrespect intended, but I am not allowed to post in the other thread so I will reply here and be on my way.
There are some factual errors here. For one thing, it was Ssounder who made that cite, not me. For another you claim to be well informed about Christian Nationalism because you used to know some people.
I suggested that things may have changed since you last looked in. I posted the latest in a string of articles about the movement. I can assure that it is more powerful than you give it credit for being. Personally, I don’t care what percentage of the country identify as Christian Nationalists – I care about the powerful and wealthy leaders who are doing things no church has attempted since the middle ages. There are organizations far more powerful and influential than all the militia groups combined. Katherine Stewart does an excellent job of enumerating the organizations and money flow in her book The Power Worshipers which is linked within the linked thread (The “Christians” are coming…")
Since you are not going to be convinced no matter what, I suggest that you read the linked article because then we can discuss it. It is not too long and will give us a place to start. Besides, I refuse to do the reading is a pretty weak argument don’t you think? No one is attacking sincere faith in either the article, or the other thread. There is some criticism of purely political entities posing as “Christian” organization in order to influence voters.
I do hope you will read the article for your own frame of reference. Then agree or disagree as you see fit, but I will be very surprised if you are not shocked by some aspects of it. Hope we can discuss it further in the future – if I stay around.
Who’s now active on Facebook, under another name
, and still his wonderful self.
He is? Is he still telling stories?
I wouldn’t mind being his friend, or at least his follower. I loved his stories.
Doj response has dropped… waiting for pdf.
Ohhh, there are pictures of how the documents were scattered on the floor in the open.
This has the pdf in the article.
Wow, just did a superficial scan of that document and it’s a complete rout of FPOTUS’s legal flailing.