The Guardian has it as a report in the Washington Post which suggests caution - that might explain why others haven’t picked it up.
FBI Search and Seizure at Trump's Mar-A-Lago Residence, August 8, 2022, Case Dismissed July 15, 2024
Yes, I read about that, too. You’re right, she should have.
This ruling is so bad, even conservative judges are weighing in to say what a garbage ruling she made. I have a hard time believing all the 6 Trump judges on the Eleventh Circuit would be similarly in the tank to protect him. Just as SCOTUS has rebuked him several times despite Trump’s hope they would unquestioningly rule in his favor.
I think DOJ must appeal Cannon’s ruling. The Eleventh Circuit could end the whole debate in an instant by simply ruling that Cannon’s court was not the proper venue to hear this case and that judge-shopping won’t be tolerated.
I believe I read that these particular documents were marked as Human Sourced meaning that if information is leaked it would threaten the lives of our sources in foreign governments. As a hypothetical, if North Korea is the country in these documents then Trump could trade that information to Kim Jong Un - not for the nuclear information but so he could identify the leak in his government. In return, North Korea has invested a lot of money in Computer Warfare and Trump might negotiate that tool to hack upcoming elections.
A look back at the ways Mar-a-Lago was a security nightmare.. Given what we know now, it’s even more disconcerting.
Exactly this - it’s difficult to report on a news story which is an exclusive to another outlet and whose source is (rightly) kept confidential. All you can say is “The Washington Post is reporting…”
Yeah, that’s the part that bothers me.
The data itself may be out of date but can still reveal technical capabilities and human assets that are still active. The remaining redactions that were recently declassified from the Warren Commission are of this variety - not directly about the JFK assassination but about our intelligence gather capabilities of the era that we did not want publicly disclosed.
Also … in terms of potential nuclear capabilities of another country … it’s hard for me to imagine a piece of information not already known by a party of interest that wouldn’t still be of value.
If you were talking about the secret sauce for WD-40 (Water Displacement, 40th attempt), it’s still quite likely that details of the 39 previous failed efforts would be of value to somebody.
Unless we were talking about willful subterfuge, which – if TFG were actually playing the espionage game – could inure to his grave detriment.
The point of whether DOJ could, or should, depart from that policy, is separate from the point that it still exists and they haven’t yet announced a departure from it. With that being the case, Cannon knows that she has effectively delayed indictment until after the election. I find it hard to believe that this was on accident. My point is that I believe she exploited DoJ’s unspoken assurance that they’ll continue to observe that policy.
Having said that, now we can have a conversation about how the policy ought to apply, and whether Jim Comey violated it. Yes, I believe he violated it, whatever DoJ says to the contrary. No, the policy shouldn’t be abused to halt an investigation in progress at a critical juncture. It causes the exact situation we see now, where a criminal declares himself a perpetual candidate so as to deter investigation into his crimes. Reform is needed.
Sorry, but it IS politics anymore, it is ALL politics…
You predict that he is toast—I predict that he’s going to be re-elected.*
The law is clear. Any regular citizen who mis-handled top secret documents like this would be sitting in jail already with no bail.
But this isn’t about the law–it’s about politics.
I doubt if Trump will be indicted. And if he is , he can easily escape it all by a simple political announcement–that he is officially running for president. Then he can claim that the law can’t be enforced on candidates, and the Supreme Court will agree with him.
Because even the Supreme Court isn’t about the law any more.
It’s all politics.
*Can somebody please bookmark this thread and remember to send it to me and altamasama[ two years and two months from today? It should be fun.
My prediction is the thread will either still be going in 2 months, or will be revived if/when there is a new development. But yeah, I agree it would be fun. 
not two months—I said two years plus two months!
Let the fun begin…
My bad, yes okay. 
Not gonna get into Comey again (and risk another stink eye from @Aspenglow 
), but I’ll just reiterate that Trump is not a candidate for office this election cycle. Whatever anyone may think of this rule, I see no reason whatsoever that it should apply to this case.
The government does because even if Trump isn’t running, many people he endorsed are running. It’s actually worse than if he was just a candidate. An indictment of him now impacts many candidacies, not just one.
They’re very aware of the optics. The warrant was served quietly and with no fanfare until Trump screamed about it. Trump was the one who made this a spectacle. The DOJ has been forced to make public statements.
All the more reason to forge ahead. If Trump gave a shit about the candidates he’s backing, he should have done everything he could to keep this quiet.
Let’s look at the implications of this claim. Anyone can endorse anyone. How do you tell if the endorsement is significant enough to give immunity? It is not hard to declare for president. Should that give immunity? Half the Mafia could declare tomorrow - should the DoJ not touch them any more?
The rule applying to actual candidates a few months before the election makes sense. 2 years before? Not so much.
An article with an overview of the latest filings re: Special Master. Been discussed, but this is clear and concise and highlights Trump’s goal of getting the unredacted affidavit with the purpose of compromising and delaying the investigation: Trump’s Fourth Amendment Claims and the Strategy Behind the Challenge to the Mar-a-Lago Search
Ultimately, however, Trump’s complaint is largely premised on Fourth Amendment claims rather than privilege claims. What are those claims? And what are the strategic reasons why Trump is raising them in the first place? While his attorneys have been criticized as inept, they raise some fairly novel Fourth Amendment arguments worthy of attention. If successful, these claims could lead to the return of seized documents to Trump or the suppression of all of the documents in a subsequent prosecution. And whatever the weaknesses of the attorneys’ arguments, their approach is well-suited to serve broader strategic goals. Ultimately, a central purpose of the litigation appears to be obtaining an unredacted of the affidavit that provided support for the search warrant. That affidavit could reveal the Justice Department’s sources of information inside of Trump’s organization and Mar-a-Lago, and its disclosure may compromise the government’s ongoing criminal investigation.
Trump’s filings reveal the central strategic importance of obtaining an unredacted affidavit. His team also sees the appointment of a special master, nominally concerned with matters of privilege, as a means for obtaining the unredacted affidavit.
But Trump is the leader of the MAGA movement. It’s important enough that Biden gave an entire speech about it. He’s not just anyone. Acting otherwise is fun make-believe but wholly ignoring reality.
I don’t like the policy and especially how it’s being used. I think it does far more harm than good. But it’s clear that’s what the DOJ is doing.
Of course, you’re assuming against all evidence that the current Court would follow precedent, even if it was a case they themselves decided recently.
What??? If the DOJ is delaying due to upcoming elections, it’s to prevent every MAGA-head from voting this November. I think many of them probably believe that the granting of the Special Master will somehow exonerate Trump, and the DOJ is hoping this is true. The potential reality of Trump really not being able to run again in 2024 would make them come out in droves in 2022.
ETA: To be clear, I meant the DOJ is hoping that more MAGAheads stay home this November because of the special master approval.