FBI Search and Seizure at Trump's Mar-A-Lago Residence, August 8, 2022, Case Dismissed July 15, 2024

ThelmaLou’s Cat for President.

That is likely true, but how does Mrs. Thomas feel about it? And how does Mr. Thomas feel about sleeping on the couch?

And Larry the Cat for the UK’s Prime Minister!

The document in question is an unsealed account by the government of how the FBI Privilege Team segregated potentially privileged documents before the rest of the cache was handed over to investigators.

But there’s nothing in the filing that says the call logs were specifically Jan. 6 calls, only that there were 39 pages marked “President’s Calls” with hand-written notes on them.

The Twitterer who found this section of the filing, connected some dots, writing…

Remember when the 1/6 committee told us that some of trumps call logs from the day of the insurrection were missing? And remember when trump said he didn’t want to return documents to NARA because they’d end up with the committee?

… and implies that they might be the Jan. 6 calls. They might, or they might not. It would be great to find a smoking gun, and this might be it. But for all we know, it could be 39 pages of calls to GrubHub for Big Macs.

Here’s the full document. The paragraph in question starts in the middle of page 6.

(I tried to copy and paste it from the PDF, but the formatting was all messed up.)

Good question. I would much prefer the couch over being in the same room as that nutjob. And we know Clarence has other means of entertaining himself.

And Jorts to run the Department of Labor!

Nm ninjaed

But I have it on the best authority that the two would NEVER discuss such things! :roll_eyes:

Somebody screwed up and posted the inventory logs of the items seized at Mar-a-Lago, which were supposed to be under seal, to the public docket. They’ve been removed, but were captured by a reporter while available.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-10-05/inside-mar-a-lago-pardons-white-house-emails-legal-bills

The detailed lists of seized materials were attached to a recently unsealed Aug. 30 report from the Justice Department. A judge had ordered the logs stay under seal but they appeared to be inadvertently posted to the public court docket. They’re no longer publicly visible.

That reporter was Zoe Tillman (Buzzfeed). She been referenced a couple times in this thread and is doing a great job covering this story. It’s a huge deal that she was on her toes to grab this info in the tight window that it was available.

One of the things we learned form this is that the ‘medical documents’ in the seized documents that Judge Cannon used as part of her reasoning to intervene on Trump’s behalf appear to be, in their entirety, the letter from Dr. Harold Bornstein that Trump publicly released in 2016. That’s it.

Quote from Cannon’s original special master order (my bold):

The second factor—whether the movant has an individual interest in and need for the seized property—weighs in favor of entertaining Plaintiff’s requests. According to the Privilege Review Team’s Report, the seized materials include medical documents, correspondence related to taxes, and accounting information [ECF No. 40-2; see also ECF No. 48 p. 18 (conceding that Plaintiff “may have a property interest in his personal effects”)].

Judge Jordan grants DOJ request to expedite appeal of Cannon’s original order.

I find judge fights quite appealing.

I’m confused about a number of things about Trump’s appeal to SCOTUS.

He appealed directly to Clarence Thomas? I thought appeals went to the Court as a whole. Is it normal for cases to be appealed to a particular justice? What can Thomas decide? Can he rule on the case himself, or decide by himself that the Court will hear the case? Or does he just make a recommendation and the entire Court still has to decide whether to hear the case?

I also thought I read something that said one of Trump’s arguments was that the 11th Circuit did not have jurisdiction to overrule Cannon’s decision. Which I find hilarious since Cannon had no jurisdiction in the first place.

So basically, do I have to worry about Thomas unilaterally ruling in favor of Trump? Or is this just another hail mary that’s going to land with a thud outside the back of the end zone?

There are multiple districts. Each district is assigned to a particular SC justice for oversight. The ruling being appealed came from the 11th. Thomas oversees the 11th. Hence, the appeal is reviewed by Thomas.

Relevant statute:

The Chief Justice of the United States and the associate justices of the Supreme Court shall from time to time be allotted as circuit justices among the circuits by order of the Supreme Court. The Chief Justice may make such allotments in vacation.

A justice may be assigned to more than one circuit, and two or more justices may be assigned to the same circuit.

The circuit justices handle specific types of motions and appeals, but I believe in that role they’re acting as heads of the districts, not as SC Justices. They often refer appeals to the wider court but they do not have to.

Yes, you do have to worry about it. Hopefully you don’t have to worry too much, because it would be obscene for him to rule unilaterally in favor of Trump (see below). But I think a little worry is justified given that we have not yet seen a bottom to how low Thomas will go.

You know, now that you mention it, I think I knew that. I just wasn’t aware that Thomas oversaw the 11th Circuit. So, Trump’s team didn’t appeal directly to Thomas, they just appealed the 11th Circuit Court ruling and Thomas’s lap is where it landed. That makes a lot more sense.

Just so I have this clear in my head, the DOJ has two broad issues with what is happening in Judge Cannon’s court.

  1. Assuming Cannon’s court is the proper place to hear these issues, DOJ has a problem with an Order she made / documents DOJ can use, etc. This consumes most of the discussion on this thread so far.

  2. Cannon’s court is not the proper place (ie, no jurisdiction).

DOJ has appealed both those issues separately:

  1. DOJ kind of “won” and Trump is appealing that to Sup Ct.

  2. DOJ appealed that and the 11th Cir appeal court just agreed to expedite the hearing.

Is this ballpark accurate? If not, let me know so I can better follow what is going on.

So:

  • Thomas could decline the appeal on his own.

  • Thomas could decide to consider the appeal, but the SCOTUS as a whole could decide not to hear the case.

  • SCOTUS could decide to hear the case and rule against Trump.

  • SCOTUS could decide to hear the case and rule in favor of Trump.

Are there any other possibilities? If that fourth option is the only way for Trump to come out on top, that seems like an awful lot of hurdles for him to clear.

Remember when Trump had his goons “raid” Dr. Bornstein’s office and retrieve his medical records? I wonder if those records were among the seized documents.

I’ve also been wondering if the seized classified documents might include items that were improperly classified due to pressure by Trump. I know Trump was very upset that Dr. Bornstein released a short list of medications Trump was taking, a list that included a hair loss medication. Could Trump have possibly had his personal medical information classified after that event, just to increase the penalties on anyone that might dare to release more of his information? Or maybe not medical records, but other stuff that might have been classified just because it might embarrass or incriminate Trump?

This is wild-assed speculation, but it could explain why he’s pushing so hard for a third party review of the classified information.