FBI Search and Seizure at Trump's Mar-A-Lago Residence, August 8, 2022, Case Dismissed July 15, 2024

Their base might not care, but we’ve learned the courts do and have made it very clear they won’t be dragged into it. Did Giuliani get his license back?

I actually believe that he will lose key enablers such as Fox News and congress critters if it turns out he was holding onto to nuclear documents after leaving office. His die hard supporters will then lose the voices in actual power that egg them on and they could go back to being a silent disgruntled, disorganized mass of people again. This could be the wedge.

45 years. I doubt he’d make the connection though…

Not just nuclear info. There is also talk about signals intelligence.

The contradiction will not bother them. Whichever story starts gaining the most traction is the one they’ll go with.

You know how depressing this is to read? You’re not even really expressing an opinion here or even making a prediction. More like merely stating a fact based on a pattern that’s played out a 100 times before.

It is my understanding that 1. Trump (or his attorney) was provided a copy of the warrant and that 2. the sealing order does not apply to Trump and he can release the warrant any time he wants.

Over on Trump-Website Land, the claim is that 1. He was never given a copy and 2. the sealing order DOES apply to Trump.

I’ve been unsuccessful, so does anyone have a link that answers these questions one way or another?

… actually blackmailed Ukraine.
… mishandles pandemic response.
… refuses to accept election results.
… incites a mob to storm the Capitol.

Not trying to single you out – I’ve thought all these things myself. It never turns out to be true.

Signal Intelligence is how we gather our intelligence, right?

I believe Signal Intelligence is what has been gathered via intercepted communications. Not specifically “how” intelligence is gathered so much as information that could only have been gathered in a particular manner.

“Shit, why didn’t we think about running for President?”

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It can refer to both. Sigint can be the intelligence itself or the process of acquiring it (which would include staff, methods, organization, etc). For example, I know somebody who worked SIGINT on a naval vessel.

But that could allow “Them” to figure out and possibly eliminate our assets, which would be BadTM.

I think “you can’t reason someone out of a position they didn’t reason themselves into.” applies here. These are the same people who believed that Trump couldn’t release his tax returns because he was under audit despite literally everyone from the IRS on down saying that wasn’t true.

With respect to question 1, see the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure, Rule 41: Search and Seizure:

Of course, that’s probably just the Deep State Fake Rules, that don’t really apply to the federal Jack-booted thugs, but are put up on a website to deceive the sheeple. :shushing_face:

All those are things that happen to other people. Other than catching Covid, none of those things are going to impact a fox news host in any real way.
Hopefully they’re smart enough to understand that [hopefully hyperbolic example] a nuke landing in New York doesn’t care whether or not you’ve pledged allegiance to trump.

Note that Northern Piper’s response does not mention that the “target” of the search warrant is prohibited, in any way, from releasing the warrant or inventory. That’s because there is no such prohibition. Rules don’t normally say what is allowed but rather what isn’t. if it doesn’t say you can’t do it, you can.

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That is right! I had forgotten about the big ordeal when we agreed to sell or somehow provide Australia with know how on nuclear powered subs. If it is weapons OR power plants – HUGE security breach.

I am back to wanting the SOB in an orange jumpsuit shuffling into court with shackles and handcuffs. Not that it is likely to happen-- but it is the only logical conclusion to this series of events.

Stolen from Twitter this morning, after Espionage was trending.

It’s only espionage if it comes from the Espionage region of France. Otherwise, it’s “sparkling treason”.