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ETA: Sadly, I’m not able to post good image links from my phone today.
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FBI Search and Seizure at Trump's Mar-A-Lago Residence, August 8, 2022, Case Dismissed July 15, 2024
Here it is: Document Viewer : NPR
Nothing surprising. No mention of RD/FRD information (nuclear stuff).
This contains a link to the redacted warrant:
Is that verbatim? It’s not a sentence, is it?
Each investigation in its own time. They’re running on separate tracks and separate time lines. But I believe they’ll all land as they ripen.
As for this one, it’s both terrifying and very gratifying. Terrifying because if its implications to our national security and very gratifying because the DOJ doesn’t push the words, ‘Espionage Act,’ out into the public sphere without intending to charge. I hear a lot of wiggle words from prognosticators speaking on the tee vee, but here’s what I see:
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Strong evidence of crimes committed;
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Intent to commit the crimes well established;
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Inside witnesses who can offer direct testimony about the crimes; and
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Documents that speak for themselves about the seriousness of the crimes.
In short, I think Trump is fucked. Hard to figure how long it will take to charge him, but this spoke of the investigation could ripen comparatively fast. I won’t say it’s an easy case, but it’s the easiest and quickest one to prove so far, IMHO.
It’s verbatim, but I only took the first half of the sentence.
Nothing meaningful was redacted - just the case number and the serving officer’s name.
The affidavit, of course, was not unsealed.
The information which was redacted was meaningful, thank you. Hence the redaction.
The phrase “miscellaneous secret documents” is where the meat is.
If TFG get’s away with claiming he declassified all of it, wouldn’t those unclassified .gov documents be subject to public disclosure?
Does anybody here honestly believe trump will ever see the inside of a cell? I don’t think he will, but I would looove so much to be wrong.
I do, but with the caveat that the term, “cell,” will have to be redefined to accommodate a former president and his attendant Secret Service protection entitlements.
This is obviously uncharted territory, so who knows how it will play out? But that he will be charged, convicted, sentenced and remanded to serve that sentence? I’m pretty confident it’s going to happen.
IANAL.
Regarding the picture books, I do see two lines that say “binder of photos”.
Trump is claiming that evidence was planted, right? That’s an allegation of a pretty serious crime; shouldn’t he be interviewed by investigators so they can get to the bottom of that crime? As part of the process he should have the opportunity to file a witness statement detailing his knowledge of these events, and have the opportunity to sign it, under penalty of law.
I believe he’s allowed to say it all he wants (unless there’s a defamation issue). If he says it in court, under oath or would actually attempt to press charges or sue them, that would be different.
But that’s just an un-educated assumption.
I don’t. But it’s good to see him squirm, and it’s good to broadcast the truth about Trump.
OMG, did he manage to steal Mitt Romney’s binders full of women?
From what I’m reading, whether or not he declassified may not matter.
The relevant laws they’re citing cover the unlawful concealment of government records and the unlawful retention of material that can be used to harm the US or aid a foreign adversary (this one pre-dates the classification system in the first place). Whether or not those materials are classified or not may not matter for that purpose.
As for public disclosure, as far as I have read, the classification system handles how material tagged as such should be handled but does not require public disclosure of anything that is not classified. I think that might be covered under FOIA, though. IANAL so somebody can correct me on that
Not necessarily. There is a decent chance the current President reclassified some of the information. I actually have no idea how such a thing would play out in court.
That’s my “fizzle” scenario for this - the DOJ just really wanted to get this stuff back because they didn’t trust Trump not to reveal it (either in a pique or as retribution at some future date). But from a criminal perspective it will be hard to prove that Trump didn’t actually order them declassified. So nothing actually happens.
The major countervailing factor to this scenario is that I can’t imagine Garland would go to such a politically fraught extreme over it. But maybe he thought he had enough cover with the “multiple TS/SCI documents” angle.
To press charges, it seems DOJ needs more than just the documents themselves - they need some sort of document or recording or solid information that there was a nefarious purpose to keeping the documents.
Whether he declassified them or not, surely it’s still a crime to cloister away government property after you no longer have a right to possess it, especially after that government has requested its return.