How about that! Missouri’s own detention camp is located at Richards Gebauer AFB in Grandview, presumably to keep it away from prying eyes.
Only two things FEMA overlooked. 1) Grandview is a pretty close-in suburb of Kansas City. In fact, RGAFB is directly across the street from a golf club.
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It means at any arbitrary time at which a national emergency is declared, FEMA can come in and declare martial law.
There are no standards, of which I am aware, on what constitutes a national emergency worthy of declaring martial law. There is no limitation, of which I am aware, of any time limits on such a power.
So, this federal agency has the ability to declare martial law anywhere, for whatever arbitrary reason, for however long they want. During that time, the Constitution goes out the window, and they can fuck over the citizenry in any way they want.
Essentially, if ever any police state type tactics are needed, perhaps to quell domestic discontent, FEMA, among other agencies, would be the spearhead of any suppression.
Of course, this might sound like a raving lunatic talking. But I bet if you told turn of the 19th century German citizen the truth about Hitler, they’d laugh at you.
Any police, elected officials, or National Guard that are willing to suppress our Constitutionally protected rights at will, yes.
great job captain A, i couldn’t have said it better myself
I’ve lived in Colorado all my life and haven’t heard of Lowell AFB. I suppose it could have been a secret base or something.
HOWEVER, the construction of Denver International Airport WAS delayed for over 1 year to allow for the construction of the underground concentration camp. They also have a completely paved runway (covered in dirt) ready for the New World Order[sup]TM[/sup].
Not only are these concentration camps real, but FEMA has been tracking IP addresses of people discussing these camps, and interning the people who openly discuss them. That’s how it’s been kept such a secr. .[sub]What’s that knocking sound? Oh, no. . . .[/sub]
Incidentally, FEMA’s website (you can guess the URL) states that FEMA has 2,600 employees, which seems rather difficult to fully staff 184 concentration camps with, in addition to actually doing what FEMA does.
I don’t know if you get some of those FEMA file clerks upset, you can find yourself in a hornet’s nest.
And if you get them really angry, FEMA will sit on your paperwork when applying for a loan after your house gets wiped out by a tornado.
From the link provided by DDG:
East of Anchorage is what we like to call “Chugach State Park,” which is full of rugged mountains. The railroad which heads southeast of Anchorage doesn’t go anywhere the road doesn’t go – unless there’s some secret FEMA railroad, too. There are hiking trails and powerline easements, and I think there’s some weird snow camp up on Eagle Glacier. But I can think of a thousand better places in the “wilds of Alaska” to hide a secret camp than Chugach State Park.
Like tramp said: crapola.
Supposedly there’s a FEMA camp in Albany, NY, too. Unless it’s cleverly hidden underground… nope. No sir. And how the hell would you hide an entire concentration camp underground in a city that doesn’t have subways or any existing underground setup except a single underground passage between the state museum and an artsy-type place across the street?
There’s one in Greenville, South Carolina.
No, wait. That’s Bob Jones University.
I saw a “Militia/Patriot Movement” type show on the local cable access channel that had video of an alledged FEMA CC.
I can’t remember what state it was in.
This is from somewhat hazy memory with some commentary gathered from the POV of the person narrating.
(Note: I am drawing no conclusions here, just telling what I saw in the vid.)
This is what the video showed:
It was a large (a few acres anyway) fenced enclosure along a railroad siding. There was a train engine on the tracks with what appeared to be USAF markings. (narrator said it was a little used/abandoned? air force repair facility.)
On the fence side along the tracks was an entrance with a barred revolving turnstile leading into a “sally port” to another turnstile, which opened into the main “compound.”(narrator’s words)
Also along this side (inside) were numbers painted on the ground every 30 or 40 feet or so. In front of each number was a gate. (narrator said this was where people could be offloaded from the trains.)
Anyway, they went through a bunch more crap.
The only thing that tripped me out about the video was the fence. It was topped with barb wire with a roll of razor wire just below. the thing was, the wire was angled inward like it was to prevent someone from getting out, not breaking in! :eek:
Um–a concentration camp, with turnstiles? Why am I flashing on the “tollbooth scene” from Blazing Saddles?
Re the spooky way the barbed wire was inclined inwards: In the UK, the law requires barbed wire extensions to be angled inwards, for the safety of innocent passersby.
http://www.met.police.uk/crimeprevention/garden2.htm
Ditto for Kitchener, Ontario. You can have barbed wire around your parking lot, but it has to point inwards.
http://www.municipalworld.com/kitchener/630.htm
And, in Phoenix, Arizona, your barbed wire extensions on your fence can’t extend out over your property line, so you might want to have it angling inwards instead.
http://www.ci.phoenix.az.us/ZAGENDA3/zitem8.html
Just pointing out that there are legitimate reasons for the “bobwire” to be pointing inwards, besides the fact that it’s a concentration camp. 
Well, DDG, to clarify. I used the wrong word (laughing at myself.) I meant revolving type door things with bars instead of doors. I have seen these on shows about prisons.
Re the wire thing, these fences were about 12 feet high.
I have seen many security fences around businesses with wire facing out. As long as it is tall enough, it is perfectly legal.
Thanks for pointing out my misuse of turnstile. Now I have visions of imprisoned militia whackos vaulting turnstiles ala New York subway riders. 
SenorBeef wrote,
I think I’m lost here. What means that FEMA can come in and declare martial law?
Still lost. Do you believe the Constitution doesn’t apply in these cases, or do you believe the Judiciary inteprets the Constitution in a way that allows this, or do you believe something else, which I haven’t thought of?
Well, abilities and Constitutional powers are very different. Almost anyone has the ability to declare anything. If the President is the one doing the declaring, more people tend to listen. I suppose the question here is, why do you believe FEMA is likely to declare itself above the Constitution, and why do you think anyone would agree with them?
They seem a little under-armed for the task. There are plenty of Federal agencies which outgun FEMA (not to mention outman, outplane, and outvehicle them).
Well, not really, but I’m not sure we’re linking up on a semantic level. It sounds like you are claiming that a Federal agency claims powers well beyond what is allowed them by the Constitution. How is this different from a private citizen claiming the same thing? Executive branch agencies can claim all the power they want, just as a policeman can claim he’ll send you up the river until you’re gray-haired if he ever sees you in his pretty little town again. You can be scared of his gun or call his bluff.
The Youngstown Sheet & Tube Co. v. Sawyer case is of interest here. In the majority opinion, Hugo Black said,
The decision decisively struck down Truman’s order putting the steel industry under the control of the Department of Commerce.
What has changed? Where does FEMA get powers the Department of Commerce did not have? Where does Bush get powers Truman did not have? Did the Supreme Court turn radically pro-government? If so, when?
Hmmm. They might laugh if you told them you could see the future or fell through a time-warp, but I suspect most 19th Century Germans were familiar with anti-semitism, despotism, militarism, and atavistic territorial struggles with Slavs. None of these is a new concept (well, maybe the atavism … oh never mind).
Concerning FEMA concentration camps:
Here is an article written by a guy that personally toured several of the “supposed” camps. It looks like these camps are a myth. Read for yourself:
BTW, I hope my post did not give the impression I believe in these “FEMA Camps”. I don’t. I was just passing along something I saw on the local access channel, where anyone can “produce a show” on anything they want.
Which is cool, free speech in action.
The dissenting opinion in Youngstown Sheet & Tube Co. v. Sawyer) (The Steel Seizure Case) 343 U.S. 579 (1952) is almost as interesting as the majority opinion. Chief Justice Vinson argues that there was no
He writes that since the action was going to be temporary “and subject to congressional direction–either approving, disapproving or regulating the manner in which the mills were to be administered and returned to the owners”, that it was in fully conformity with the President’s constitutional duties.
I don’t agree with him here - I don’t think that the state has the right to do anything that isn’t specifically prohibited by law. I’m just saying that it’s important that even the pro-seizure side in this case, in the person of the Chief and two Associate Justices, believed that the President only had rights to take this action in the interval in which Congress struggled to come up with a statutory solution.
Again, this might not matter if you believe the Supreme Court has changed radically (and secretly?) or that the Supreme Court has been or will be put under control of the same nefarious entity (UN/FEMA/ATF) which puts the rest of the country under its control. Those beliefs would be speculative and wholly without precedent (or evidence, beyond a few photos of fences with barbed wire facing the wrong way).
Turns out I am smack dab between the FEMA Detention Facilitis in Lima, OH and Ft. Wayne, IN. Wonder which one I will get taken to.
Thanx, Krispy, that’s a hoot. I especially enjoyed the Little League detention camp.
And these theories are brought to you by the same folks who think the polyester “anti-counterfitting” thread in your paper money is actually a magnetic strip that allows the CIA to tell how much money you’ve got in your wallet (do they really want to know that I can almost afford a breakfast taco once in a while?)
As for Lowell AFB, it was never secret, but it is closed.