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Good lord. Of course you have an obligation to release her. What sort of moral universe do you inhabit? Just because you find a situation sexually arousing, that doesn’t mean that you can ignore rendering aid to someone in a state of distress.
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If she requests you release her, you do so as quickly as possible. And while you’re doing it you ask her what other help she needs. Has she been attacked? Do you need to call the police? Or is this a sexual game gone awry?
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Not objecting is not the same as consenting. And given how little you know about her and the situation, even loud and vigorous consent should be viewed with suspicion. Haven’t you ever heard? Don’t stick your dick in the crazy.
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IANAL. Kind of sad to think anyone would pause to consider their *legal *duty in such a situation when their *moral *duty is so clear.
Is this how psychopaths fantasize?
You’re new here, right?
Anyway . . . many of you seem to ignore the fact that for about half of us, the restrained person is male. Would that, in any way, change your response?
Sorry, but since you’re naked, I can tell that you probably murdered someone and/or robbed a bank.
As I am female - and do not have a dick to stick in the crazy nor a desire to do so- I’d call the police and PROBABLY wait - unless I thought some nutcase might be on his way back. I may or may not render immediate assistance depending on what instructions I got from the police and the situation. If I thought the guy who was tied up was dangerous, I would wait, or leave the scene and wait for the police somewhere public (if I thought other dangerous people might be around), if not, I’d get him out of there unless instructed to wait.
Sex would not cross my mind - rape if I let him go might - but sex wouldn’t.
I’d hate to be the jerk that interferes with someones magic trick. But I’d have to check back on the situation. They may not be pulling it off or, more likely, are out of their minds.
Kind of new. Been around long enough to know there are some members with personal axes they love to grind (such as Der Trihs vs. all religions of the world, not that there’s anything wrong with that.) But I must confess, the OP is not on my radar at all.
Just curious, that’s all. Disregard.
Well, the OP did specify “your preferred gender”, so it’s not a matter of blind assumption. Now, if the tied-up person were male, I’d probably be more hesitant to help right away, since it might be a trap. Heck, even if it’s a woman I’d be careful, because one thing I’ve learned from playing Elder Scrolls games is that if a woman begs for help, or offers you a sexy night of fun…BEWARE!!!
As for male + (3), well…try anything once, I suppose. 
While some jurisdictions would seem to require rendering help to a stranger, many do not - lets go with that.
So there is no legal obligation to release her initially, nor on request.
But, when it becomes consensual-sexual, does it then become false imprisonment to not release her?
And for those wondering about the context, it is hard to explain, but has to do with mythology/demonology, legalism, breaking spiritual contracts, and the possibility that our world coincides with a mythological world - and that the myths of old are actually happening today. Every single law we have today ‘on the books’ has a mythological/spiritual counterpart. And by finding legal cause in ‘our world’ you also have a claim in the spiritual world.
The scenario I gave is something common in the spiritual, people in bondage, but in our world that may appear ‘bondage to a job because of health insurance, etc.’ but in the spiritual it is someone tied up, and the person not wanting to release them, though they can, but wanting a ‘sexual’ encounter, and the legalistic recourse the victim has.
So that is the reason I wanted to stay strictly legal, and wondering if the false imprisonment has any legal traction.
Ah. There’s the kanicbird we all know and love. If I may be the first to say so…“Uh, what?” I mean, I’ve heard the old (false) argument that our laws are based on the Ten Commandments, but you’re claiming they’re demonological?
Having sex with someone without their consent, or when they’re under coercion to give consent (and someone tied up who has asked for your help clearly is) is illegal, no matter what the demons have to say about it, and it has nothing to do with the spirit world.
No Stopping
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Women have been luring horny, dumb men into traps probably for as long as there have been humans; luring some guy off into an alley to get mugged by her male partner for example. If anything I’d be less worried about the man; “woman luring a man to his doom” is a common enough theme in fiction that I probably couldn’t help but think of it in such a bizarre situation.
How could you possibly know this?
It’s **kanicbird **- God talks to him.
I’m glad he finally gave up the real story - I was starting to worry if there were some medication-change or illness going on.
Here’s my take:
(please remember I was raised Pentecostal (speaking in tongues, dreams&visions, whole nine yards) and that I am now solidly atheist. This is what I would say if I were to accept the spiritual hypothetical, which I do not.)
It depends on which court you’re hoping to take this situation before. The physically-manifested in the real world court? If so, then in most places you have an obligation (either moral or legal) to at the very least notify someone in authority so THEY can attempt to remedy the situation. The person in bondage at that point is upsetting the public peace. It may turn out they haven’t done anything illegal, but they’ll still be checked on to verify that. In addition, if the person in bondage asks you to sleep with them, you may be LEGALLY ok, but there’s going to be a really strict investigation to make sure of that, which you’ll have to suffer through before your innocence of wrongdoing is proven.
If you’re taking this to a spiritual court, then that’s more tricky. If God is all-knowing, then He/She/It knows what you’re capable of, and what the situation requires. At that point, you’re on the hook to assist to whatever degree you are able to, because He/She/It will hold you accountable for not helping the person in bondage if you don’t. Now, for some people, that help will be really minimal, because they aren’t in a good place themselves to help. For other people, they’re able to do more. For the “sexual” part of it, in no situation do I believe God puts humans in the role of continuing to take advantage of someone in bondage. That is NOT our job, and is totally off the table. Aside from that, it’s up to you (free will and intelligence) to figure out where you fall on the assisting, and to then do what you feel is needed to stay on God’s good side.
I love a good hypothetical.
Oh…I see. :eek:
(Thought I was having a TIA for a moment…the words suddenly stopped making sense!!)
Well, if you’re riding the Karma Train and Ragnarök is nigh, you’d better not slow because…because…umm…feh, I got nothin’.
That means you too, Phaeton.
Rape laws vary from state to state, but I just checked the law for my state and it is considered rape to have sexual intercourse with someone who is mentally incapacitated OR physically helpless. So it looks like sex with someone you find tied up* does not seem to be any different legally speaking than sex with someone who’s been roofied or is in a coma. Morally speaking I’d say it may be even worse than raping someone who’s mentally incapacitated, as the victim would be fully aware of what was happening.
Someone you find bound and naked in the woods has also almost certainly been kidnapped. Aside from it being morally repulsive to take advantage of this situation to rape the victim, doing so would give the police pretty good reason to suspect that you were involved in the abduction as well.
*And before anyone says “But what about consensual bondage sex?”, please note that the OP does NOT say that the tied-up person has consented to bondage or sex.
Duh.
Duh. Check for crabs, of course.
Yes the 10 commandments are demonological so to speak, it is of a spiritual ‘realm’ or spiritual ‘state’ carried into our world.
Religious laws are spiritual laws based on the association you chose or are forced into, so if you describe yourself as Jewish or some forms of christianity, yes you fall under that spiritual jurisdiction (just like here you fall under a state’s jurisdiction), and most likely will suffer the emotion of guilt for breaking them. Some form of spiritual pennants (spiritual energy you must offer), is required to alleviate this guilt, or repeal directly to God for the charge to be dismissed. Stuff like ‘stoning of homosexuals’ (common theme here), happen in the spiritual/mythological ‘courts’, the person in this physical world suffers shunning as if they should die.
This is dealing with the satanic system, kingdom of darkness btw, not the kingdom of God (which offers forgiveness, healing guidance etc.) and does not have rules
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That’s actually the point, if it is illegal here, then it is also illegal there and the demons do not get a say - if the victim knows to bring this up to a spiritual court.