Something else we have to fix after Firefox upgrades. Pick the third most popular search engine for your default? It’s not even written and supported by Yahoo’s programmers anymore. . Yahoo search is a front end for Bing.
Firefox seems determined to repeat the mistakes of their prior incarnation. Netscape started great and was the default for years. Then it went downhill quick.
The current version changes are a major annoyances and not improvements. ymmv
Yep I got real ticked at that. Don’t like them messing with my search tool - I had it just where I wanted it. I “fixed” it in the options but it still doesn’t work right. I finally rolled back to 33.1 because it annoyed me that much. Probably stupid but I want my browser to work the way I want it to work, dammit.
This is why (well, not the Yahoo thing, I never use the search box) I’m still using Firefox 28. If PaleMoon was available on OS X I’d probably use that instead. I’m sick of designers constantly changing or breaking things while chasing the latest trends.
Well, Firefox is a free product, and if they’re not making any money from end users like you, they’re going to have to find another source of income. Previously, they made the vast majority of their income from Google, through their default search partnership (like, almost 90% of their money), ad it seems that Google either declined to pony up again when the agreement ended, or Yahoo offered more money.
I haven’t upgraded to 34 yet, but i really can’t imagine that it’s going to be very hard to get my search engine back to how it was. Firefox occasionally makes usability and aesthetic changes that i don’t like, but it’s generally so customizable that i find it pretty easy to get things working how i like.
In 2012 (last year I’ve seen numbers for), 90% of Mozilla’s revenue came from Google. Redirecting search traffic is big bucks for them.
Google has also been otherwise quite generous to Mozilla. Why bite the hand that feeds you? Google’s Chrome browser is making major inroads. Google is no longer seen as a partner but as a competitor.
Think about it- what search company is the least likely to do anything, let alone take away business? Yahoo!
Paraphrasing from what I heard on the APM Marketplace podcast: Firefox’s policy on not collecting information from users doesn’t mesh with Google’s user data collection. So in order to stay in line with their policy, Firefox has had to let Google go in order to use a search engine that agrees to not collect user information. Presumably Yahoo agreed to this policy.
I am not a big fan of Yahoo, but I like the idea of at least some of my user data not going to The Google.
If you click on the magnifying glass in the left of the search box you can set your default search engine to a number of choices. It takes about ten seconds to do.
Coincidentally, Firefox informed me it had an update to apply as I was reading this thread. The update tried to force Yahoo on me, but it was bootless.
No, Firefox used to have one default search engine for the entire world (and Google was the only one who would pay for that). But in many areas of the world, there are other search engines that have much more of the business than Google. For example, both Russia and China have another search engine that is the biggest in those areas. But neither of them have much business elsewhere in the world. So they were not interested in buying from Firefox the right to be the worldwide default search engine.
So Firefox will now they have several – a default for each region of the world. They think that this will enable them to collect more money overall, since they can sell this to multiple companies for different regions. So Yahoo has bought the rights for the USA, Yandex has bought them for Russia, and Baidu has bought them for China. If Google of Bing or some new company wants to try to take over one of the regional markets, becoming Firefox’s default search engine would be a good start. So that might might create a bidding war, with Firefox collecting the benefit.
The continuing conflict with Google over collecting info on users that Wednesday Evening mentioned, and the competition with Chrome that ftg mentioned are likely factors, but I think the real bottom line is the money.
No, Firefox used to have one default search engine for the entire world (and Google was the only one who would pay for that). But in many areas of the world, there are other search engines that have much more of the business than Google. For example, both Russia and China have another search engine that is the biggest in those areas. But neither of them have much business elsewhere in the world. So they were not interested in buying from Firefox the right to be the worldwide default search engine.
So Firefox will now they have several – a default for each region of the world. They think that this will enable them to collect more money overall, since they can sell this to multiple companies for different regions. So Yahoo has bought the rights for the USA, Yandex has bought them for Russia, and Baidu has bought them for China. If Google of Bing or some new company wants to try to take over one of the regional markets, becoming Firefox’s default search engine would be a good start. So that might might create a bidding war, with Firefox collecting the benefit.
The continuing conflict with Google over collecting info on users that Wednesday Evening mentioned, and the competition with Chrome that ftg mentioned are likely factors, but I think the real bottom line is the money.