For Der Trihs

[mswas]

I once got banned for trolling one of the boards service members saying something similar to what Der Trihs says about the Iraq war. I can understand his point of view on that, but I don’t engage him much on that subject either because his view is so extreme that there are no shades of gray. He has this idea of a perfect utopia that if anything deviates from it, it is evil. This is precisely the attitude that he calls religious people ‘mentally ill’ for, but he doesn’t appreciate the irony, and I doubt that many of his defenders do.

Fundie Atheists are their own punchline because they are the pot calling the kettle black. “The world doesn’t conform to my narrow worldview, but I’m absolutely right and you’re absolutely wrong.”, isn’t that what they claim about the religious?

I made a snipe at Catholicism, and people started getting all up in this BS about whether I had the right to speak for Jesus or whatever. There is a point to be made there, that by not accepting the Catholic church, I am not being entirely tolerant of other people’s faiths, and I am ok with the consequences of that, but the thing is, I am aware of the inherent paradox. The Fundie atheists are not. They are so convinced of their rightness, so convinced that they are superior at critical thinking by virtue of being atheists, that they do not see the same rigid religious thinking in their own minds, the same sort of knee-jerk groupthink that they accuse others of.

[ArizonaTeach]

[QUOTE=Vinyl Turnip]
Please add me to your list. I’m not an evangelical atheist, but I firmly believe the very best thing Der Trihs could do for “the cause” is to shut the fuck up, and never again say a single word about God or religion. Ever.

Unhappily, my prayers to that end remain unanswered.
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What the heck do you **pray ** to?

[elucidator]

Now, I know I haven’t been a very good nihilist…

[Princhester]

A self proving statement if ever there was one, given that a good nihilist would know that there is no such thing as “good”.

[MrDibble]

[QUOTE=Malacandra]
Sometimes I have a go at explaining things to the hard of thinking because it amuses me, not because my ass is chapped. I realize this will be a hard concept for you to get, but it’s worth a try.
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Whatever you say. So it’s just Shodan, then.

[QUOTE=Malacandra]

You know what I was talking about, in defiance of my actual words on the subject? Amazing. Could I have a pass to see your stage show some time? Strangely, skin colour was exactly what I was talking about.
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You don’t know the colour of my skin, relative to Nzinga, Seated’s. So no, I don’t know that’s what you were talking about. Unless you’re the psychic in this discussion.

FYI, I’m darker of skin than most African Americans I’ve seen.

[QUOTE=Malacandra]

Who was, of course, banned for merely being an outspoken atheist, and not in any way, shape or form seeing how much he could get away with, or ignoring instructions to tone it down. Damn those fundy Admins!
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Nonetheless, what I see in this thread is an attempt to redefine** DT**'s style of discourse (unchanged for as long as I can recall) to “trolling”. badchad was banned (and rightly so) for being too far over the line. DT hasn’t crossed that line (well, not often enough) but that’s not good enough for the religionists and their house-nonbelievers. So they want to move that line. And after DT is banned, how do I know that the mood won’t change further, and *I’m *next? As long as DT is there and unbanned, I know I can say what I want in debates in GD without crossing some line. Call him my bellwether, if you would.

Plus, you know, he’s not the one calling my wife a whore, so I kind of like the guy.

[Malacandra]

[QUOTE=MrDibble]
Whatever you say. So it’s just Shodan, then.
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Whether **Shodan’**s ass is chapped is something you’ll have to take up with him. I am content for the state of his ass to remain a mystery.

@MrDibble

You don’t know the colour of my skin, relative to Nzinga, Seated’s. So no, I don’t know that’s what you were talking about. Unless you’re the psychic in this discussion.

Huh? You engage in nitpickery about skin colours and simultaneously try to claim you didn’t know I was talking about skin colour? Whoa!

@MrDibble

FYI, I’m darker of skin than most African Americans I’ve seen.

I stand corrected. I had a picture of a South African Coloured in my mind which was lighter, but since most A-As would count as Coloured in SA, obviously there’s plenty of room either way.

@MrDibble

Nonetheless, what I see in this thread is an attempt to redefine** DT**'s style of discourse (unchanged for as long as I can recall) to “trolling”. badchad was banned (and rightly so) for being too far over the line. DT hasn’t crossed that line (well, not often enough) but that’s not good enough for the religionists and their house-nonbelievers. So they want to move that line. And after DT is banned, how do I know that the mood won’t change further, and *I’m *next? As long as DT is there and unbanned, I know I can say what I want in debates in GD without crossing some line. Call him my bellwether, if you would.

I was thinking more “stalking horse” - the one who practises the assholery you would, if you had the stones for it.
And obviously you and I both know that atheists who aren’t as assholish as DT is (and you wish to be) are indeed “house niggers” (gasp, I went the whole length of that reprehensible expression) for the religious elite hereabouts, but you might have a little work to do if you want to convince the peanut gallery. Otherwise they might conclude (in flagrant defiance of the evidence, obviously!) that some atheists actually do believe in, y’know, good manners and stuff, and don’t just routinely emulate it out of a desire for ass-kissery. (Wouldn’t that lead to chapped asses, though?)

@MrDibble

Plus, you know, he’s not the one calling my wife a whore, so I kind of like the guy.

Good! Then you must like me for the same reason.

[Linty_Fresh]

[QUOTE=MrDibble]
Plus, you know, he’s not the one calling my wife a whore, so I kind of like the guy.
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Well, if I knew you were going to get out of shape about it, I wouldn’t have complained. Hell, it was just a lousy three bucks.

See how it works, Dibble? You’re civil, I’m civil. Then you make a snide comment, and I tell you to go fuck yourself. Then you call me a Tom and a house-whatever and just go batshit insane in the thread, and suddenly I don’t feel like being civil to you anymore.

Heat. Kitchen. Welcome to the Pit.

[LurkMeister]

[QUOTE=MrDibble]
badchad was banned (and rightly so) for being too far over the line. DT hasn’t crossed that line (well, not often enough) but that’s not good enough for the religionists and their house-nonbelievers. So they want to move that line. And after DT is banned, how do I know that the mood won’t change further, and *I’m *next? As long as DT is there and unbanned, I know I can say what I want in debates in GD without crossing some line. Call him my bellwether, if you would.

[/QUOTE]

Nice to hear you finally admit that Der Trihs has crossed that line, if only occasionally. Of course, I still don’t remember anyone calling for his banning. What I have seen is a few people pointing out that other people have been warned, and even banned, for behavior which they feel is less offensive than his. I am not one of them, btw. I don’t think that people should be banned for being closed-minded and impervious to attempts of others to engage in rational discussion. I do reserve the right to dismiss their opinions on that basis, however, and to choose not to waste my time on them.

I’d also like to know why you think that this board is biased against atheists. I haven’t seen any sign of this. If anything, I’ve seen the opposite; fundy or fanatic religionists get piled on all the time. Please, if you can find them, provide instances where someone has been banned (or for that matter, even warned) merely for expressing atheistic views.

I’ll be waiting in my cabin, practicing my house-n…nonbeliever spirituals.

[Grossbottom]

@Princhester

So you’d say that someone in the French underground who paid taxes so as to keep their nose clean but who blew up German bridges at night was on the German team? Answer the question before you bother telling me Der Trihs doesn’t blow up bridges. It’s an analogy. Not every aspect of it is the same.

So you mean it’s a bad analogy, neglecting not only Der Trihs’ lack of action against his oppressor, but also the fact that he does not live in a place occupied by a foreign invader, among other things. Then why are you using it?

@Princhester

I’m going to develop it over time and roast you slowly.

Oh you’re using it to try and trap me. Princhester, in the spirit of gimp wrestling hour, I feel obliged to tell you something about traps.

Traps work better when you don’t tell other people that they are traps.

Here, have a cookie and next time shhhh. Don’t tell me in advance.

[Grossbottom]

@Linty Fresh

Slow down, man, relax. I’m just trying to see things from your perspective, that’s all. Let’s see, we’ve got French people, we’ve got bridges, we’ve got noses and Trihs with explosives or something . . . OK, I give up, WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?!

And what about zee germans? And who built the bridge, okay what about that. Could have been a converted Roman aqueduct, could have been an African swallow. We just…don’t know.

[Princhester]

[QUOTE=Grossbottom]
So you mean it’s a bad analogy, neglecting not only Der Trihs’ lack of action against his oppressor, but also the fact that he does not live in a place occupied by a foreign invader, among other things. Then why are you using it?
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So you don’t have the guts to answer the question, then?

[Grossbottom]

Whoa, I didn’t see that one coming. This is why we limit gimp wrestling to an hour.

[VinylTurnip]

[QUOTE=mswas]
You’re one of the good ones, I promise you’ll be the last to the ovens.
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Depending on who’s still around, I may cut to the front of the line…

[Malacandra]

[QUOTE=LurkMeister]
I’ll be waiting in my cabin, practicing my house-n…nonbeliever spirituals.
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Boy! Keep that heathen racket down in there, or there’ll be no corn pone for you! cracks whip

/tasteless

[Mangetout]

[QUOTE=Grossbottom]
And what about zee germans? And who built the bridge, okay what about that. Could have been a converted Roman aqueduct, could have been an African swallow. We just…don’t know.
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You don’t think that when unit command said “paint the bridge red”, they actually meant “blow up the bridge”, do you? If so, what shall we do with all the red paint?

[muttrox]

[QUOTE=mswas]
Fundie Atheists are their own punchline because they are the pot calling the kettle black. “The world doesn’t conform to my narrow worldview, but I’m absolutely right and you’re absolutely wrong.”, isn’t that what they claim about the religious?

The Fundie atheists are not. They are so convinced of their rightness, so convinced that they are superior at critical thinking by virtue of being atheists, that they do not see the same rigid religious thinking in their own minds, the same sort of knee-jerk groupthink that they accuse others of.
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You spend a lot of time on “always” and “they”, and you’re usually wrong about what “they” “always” do or believe. The more you write, the less seriously I take you.

[QUOTE=mswas]
One of the things that amuses me the most about this board is how much atheists have no common denominator other than not believing in God, but they’ll always come to the defense of a fellow atheist when you express a personal distaste for that person.
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It must be nice to get so much amusement out of your own fantasies. Always indeed.

[Lord_Ashtar]

[QUOTE=MrDibble]
Tell that to badchad.
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Stop lying. badchad was banned because he was told to stop using his sig to stalk Polycarp. When Meatros returned to the board to stop the spread of misinformation about his deconversion by, you guessed it, our dear friend badchad, he started using his sig to stalk him, too. He was NOT banned for being an atheist.

You do your side no good by being a disingenuous prick.

[Slypork]

[QUOTE=Grossbottom]
Oh you’re using it to try and trap me. Princhester, in the spirit of gimp wrestling hour, I feel obliged to tell you something about traps.

Traps work better when you don’t tell other people that they are traps.
[/QUOTE]
Be careful, Grossbottom. Princhester will set a trap and you will walk unsuspectingly into it. And then, maybe, he’ll just shut his trap.

Tristan and others have commented about how DT posts and behaves in ways that are eerily similar to the infamous VC03/** TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW**/Whatever the hell he was calling himself yet he rarely, if ever, gets warned by the mods. He steps right up to the line, occasionally sticks a toe over it and then runs back. I don’t really want him banned but maybe swatted on the nose with a rolled up newspaper and told, “No, DT! Bad dog! Stop shitting on other people’s threads! Behave or you will be sent to the pound or maybe Korea. “

He can be entertaining and informative, just as ** TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW** could sometimes be. But he has been given more leeway than the average poster could get away with. What dirty secrets does he know or who is he sleeping with?
OMG! I just figured out why he won’t get banned. DT is actually the IT person who is keeping the SDMB running. If he gets banned then he will bring down the whole board. Think about it: anti-social, rude, picked on as a teen, way too into sci-fi and comics. This is exactly the kind of propeller-head we have in our company’s IT department, the kind of guy who will block all of your e-mail and network access if you piss him off.

[Lord_Ashtar]

[QUOTE=MrDibble]
As long as DT is there and unbanned, I know I can say what I want in debates in GD without crossing some line. Call him my bellwether, if you would.
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Don’t be a jerk in GD. That’s usually the easiest way to ensure you won’t be banned.

[Jolly_Roger]

Originally Posted by MrDibble
As long as DT is there and unbanned, I know I can say what I want in debates in GD without crossing some line. Call him my bellwether, if you would.

Ah, the old “But Johnny did it first!” routine. Used widely by 5th graders.