I know what he thought his point was, but I don’t see the relevance, unless we’re just down to namecalling and nothing else. In which case, let him flail away. I don’t think I said anything about the rigour of his arguments, BTW, just the attitude of his detractors.
And man, it still chaps a whole bunch of people’s asses that I got my way about Venus Hottentot , doesn’t it? Tough, I was in the right. Suck it up, losers.
Oh, and I am not black and don’t claim to be. Not in that sense, anyway. NTTAWWT, etc…
…and yet it always ends in a Pitting. Funny, that.
And during those Pittings, some people come out who don’t participate in the GD debate with DT that inspired the Pitting at all. Funny that, too.
My ass is mighty fine and unchapped, and I got a good laugh watching you throw your toys out of the pram over Hottentot Venus, and I am very pleased to see that Nzinga, Seated stuck around despite your childishness, and I can think of few fights I have ever had less dog in. Over here “Hottentot” is a word that’s used only by the kind of confused old man who thinks Victoria is still on the throne; it also sounds inherently funny if you say it a lot of times, like “trousers” and “sausage”. This ain’t to say I am some kind of frustrated Hottentot-sayer fretting daily because you have robbed me of my favourite epithet - I doubt I’ve dropped it into conversation half a dozen times in a decade.
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I know you’re not black - you’re Coloured.[sup]1[/sup] Which doesn’t prevent anyone being “at least as black” as you, now does it?
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[sup]1[/sup]A distinction which, historically, has been at least as important to Sarfie blacks and coloureds alike as to whites, AIUI, but which also is of amazingly little significance to me.
I’d hardly call that thread “tossing my toys”, you must have a fairly low threshold for toy-tossing. And yes, I’d think bringing it up now definitely smacks of ass-chappedness to me.
Making fun of crazies and retards isn’t as fun as it seems it would be, I think because maybe crazies and retards don’t know they’re crazy and retarded. Let’s make fun of fatties instead now.
Funny how neither one of those points supports the claim that people are unwilling to debate DT… or that they are floored by the power of his debating skills.
What I’m curious about is why MrDibble feels obliged to defend Der Trihs so ferociously. I’ve been following this thread and he’s been like a mother bear protecting her cub.
I know right? I think MrDibble feels some sort of idiot kinship. One of the things that amuses me the most about this board is how much atheists have no common denominator other than not believing in God, but they’ll always come to the defense of a fellow atheist when you express a personal distaste for that person.
Der Trihs is:
Not very bright
A total prick
He’s not an honest interlocutor. Why argue with someone when you know that the only purpose is so they can lure you in so they can berate you for believing something that they don’t believe. Then they create some macro category that expects you to be responsible for the behavior of all religious people ever. “It’s ok for me to be an intolerant prick because of THE INQUISITION!!!”, as though I had anything do with it, and I was oppressing his ancestors.
I think it’s sort of a shared insecurity that many atheists share. I can’t come up with any other reason why reasonably intelligent people will jump so vociferously to the defense of an irrational moron.
Not true. There are a number of us atheists/agnostics who make a point to not defend people like DT, and to distinguish our positions from his. I have many times, including in this thread. In fact, my sense is that it is only a minority of that group who will do what you say they “always” do.
In the spirit of Eddie Izzard, people look at DT and Dibble and go, “Well, they’re atheists.” Yeah, they’re fucking weirdo atheists. I am an executive atheist. Weirdo atheists over there, executive atheists over here.
It’s a “first they came for the most uppity atheists…” kind of thing.
But I don’t expect a trusty like Linty to understand. There, there, I’m sure Massa Theist will pat you on the head before the thread is over. Good house-n…onbeliever.
I don’t go into Great Debates much, so I’m not familiar with how Der Trihs acts there, but I’ve seen him occasional here in the Pit and it didn’t take long for me to decide that he’s not interested in discussion or debate, just in rabid name-calling and shrill diatribes on his two favorite topics (does that make him a two-trick pony, btw?). “Arguing” with him is like firing a pellet gun at a Jell-O mold; it just goes through without accomplishing anything but making a mess.
For your information, I happen to be an atheist who believes that we had no business sending troops to Iraq. I just don’t think it is necessary to act like a raving lunatic when dealing with people who have beliefs or opinions different from mine.
And as for your last sentence, I suggest that you either have the courage to say what you mean, or shut the fuck up.
Hey, I’d hardly expect you to put your hand up and just admit to toy-tossing. Well, you have weighed yourself in the balance and not found yourself wanting. Whodathunk? As to people being ass-chapped for being told not to use the word “hottentot”, whyn’t you get over yourself?
For pointing out that object A can be “as black as” object B even if object B is not black? Dude, show me that dictionary you looked up “disingenuous” in. Y’all are surely aware that many Americans self-identify as Black even if their own skin tone is more the “high-yaller” end of the scale.
Please. Actually, they’re just coming for the uppity assholes. Why is it you feel the need to protect that larger group?
Look, nobody wants to see DT gone because he is an atheist. Or even an outspoken atheist. There are many on this board who, if they left, I’d, a Theist, be sad to see go. Similarly, there are many who want to yank us out out if Iraq tomorrow and do a good job of debating their points. Can you not comprehend that the vast majority of posters simply think he’s a douchebag—aside from his positions? As you point out, just look at how often he’s pitted? Just look how many people who share most of his views regarding atheism or Iraq can’t stand him.
