For Og's sake, I (BigT) don't condone rape!

TubaDiva cut off this conversation in ATMB, so I’m putting it here in MPSIMS, as this is something that apparently needs to be made public.

First off, your experience is awful, and I am very, very sorry it happened to you. I do not in any way condone that sort of thing.

I was responding to an on-topic post about why certain comments did not fall afoul of the “No encouraging illegal activity” rule. I was not discussing whether or not I personally agreed with the legal definition of rape. I used words such as “crime” and “legally” to make this as clear as I could.

As should be no surprise to anyone who has actually read my posts, I do not believe the law goes far enough. I almost never do when it comes to sexism (or any other form of bigotry). In the post in question, I even called coercion of sex “morally reprehensible” and explained how it made me want to vomit.

Whether the law would consider what happened to you rape, I do not know. (There’s an implied threat, even if it’s not overt.) That would be another thread, probably in GD, if you are up for it. I will completely understand if you are not.

Whether I consider it rape depends on whether you consider it rape. It’s definitely at least molestation, since the guy was trying to get your clothes off. And I’m perfectly fine with saying that all sex that results from molestation is actually rape. But I’m not going to claim it was rape if you don’t think it was. It just is not my place. (And I’m sure my stance is debatable. Again, that’s another thread.)

I also understand that both you and ladyfoxfyre were under tremendous strain dealing with this issue, so I understand your misreadings of my post. Perhaps I could have even been clearer. But I do not appreciate being lumped in with the misogynists or any other set of bigots on this board. As even my haters should be able to tell you, one of the things I will not tolerate is bigotry.

I say “should” because of a couple of other posts from posters I will not name. Even if you misunderstood what I said in your haste to deal with the main topic of the thread, your supposed familiarity with my posts should have led you to realize I didn’t mean what you thought I meant.

Seriously, if you think I’m pro-rape, then you have no right to ridicule anything I ever say. The idea that anyone who has read what I’ve said about bigotry and sexism and still think I’d be okay with rape is mind-boggling. If anything, I am a bit overly sensitive about bigotry.

(And everyone collectively says, “A BIT?!”)

My only consolation is that I haven’t been pitted, so at least some people apparently understood what I meant after they’d had a chance to think about it a bit.

Well that and the ATMB thread freaking worked!!! :D:D:D If it wasn’t against the rules, I’d have a party thread!

I don’t really want another thread about what is rape and what constitutes rape or consent or convincing people to change their “no” to “yes”. I’m exhausted by the entire discussion in 3 different forums. Ok, you’re not for rape. Cool. Thanks for clarifying.

Who has the popcorn?

I’m exhausted and unhappy, too. It’s actually affecting my viewing of other things. I try not to think about the rampant misogyny in the world everywhere I go. I’m 100% with you.

I’m tired too. There are just so many threads in so many forums. It’s exhausting. I just can’t think about these things anymore. That’s why I’m posting in this thread as well as all the others. Because I’m too tired to talk about the topic any further.

God, shut the fuck up akennett.

it’s ok BigT no one thinks you’re a rapist. you’d have to leave the house.

Wow. Voltaire was right.

I’m going to go ahead and close this. The MPSIMS mods can reopen if they want, but based on the first few posts I don’t see any chance this is going to turn out well.