Yeah, me either… although I DO remember some discussion in the Sekham game I played about using the gender neutral 'e and 'em pronouns. I don’t remember if Pleonast was involved in that discussion.
Also, I think this game is unwinnable for scum because of the beat cops. It’d be one thing if they could return a wrong result (like in M2), but their “failure” is only a no-result. I’m not a big fan of backup roles, as one cop is powerful enough. Of course this could be balanced by mafia having power roles and being able to recruit with powers intact. We’ll see I guess.
Based on previous games, I simply do not believe that Pleonast is careless enough to make a “slip” like that. I would definitely not be voting based on that. Unfortunately, it’s early in the game and townies often look for the slightest hint of anything to run with, so it could end up bad for her. I mean him.
Yeah, I’m not sure he could make a slip like that either. On the other hand he confused the hell out of town in the blade runner game with some of his logic… but that’s not really a slip per se. Otherwise yeah he’s been a pretty solid player. On the other other hand most of us have done a few pretty stupid things in these games, so who knows.
Ha, but based on previous games (particularly ‘You-Solve-It’ since I watched both the game and the scum with perfect knowledge), Pleonast IS wiley enough to make such a ‘slip’ on purpose if he was recruited. It would be an interesting attempt at obfuscation.
It’s a very attractive way to vote, from a town perspective. If it was a slip, they know the godfather is female, and they’re well on their way to winning. They can discuss it all day, but it seems there is a pretty big post history for them to go through, should they make the effort.
True enough, but that just gets me thinking about that wine you have there.
And I do think it is a data point to file away, but IMO it’s silly to vote for him based on that (unless you’re just trying to put a little pressure on to see if anything pops). But that is not my read of what those who voted are doing.
All it takes is going to the link posted in that thread by Hockey and scroll to post 39 and see he is being truthful about his gender switching up. But will they?
They should. They could put this to bed one way or another. Good on HM for telling him to provide an example.
Edit: Never mind, I should actually read things before commenting on them.
I would be quite surprised if Pleonast turned out to be recruited scum. When I was scum, I would proof-read every post I made to check for slips. I thought I was being too careful to the point that I put in intentional misspellings and statements to make the posts look more drive-by than they really were. I don’t see scum slipping about gender pronouns.
Also, an intentional slip simply doesn’t make sense gameplay-wise
Exactly, but we’re talking about Pleonast here.
I’ll also state that if the Vig took someone out last Night, I’m glad. I don’t want the Vig holding back. Otherwise this game will take forever!
Yeah… get this game over with quick so I can get into a new one. Although if the vig did actually kill someone last night, that was not in the best interest of town. If I ever got assigned vig I’d probably never use it, unless I was forced to role claim and prove it.
I’d have a mass role-claim today. Scum don’t have a chance in this one. I think there are too many investigative and backup roles, recruitment or not.
That would have been an interesting concept Yesterday. If everyone claims, what role does the Boss claim? Probably either Townsperson or Beat Cop.
The problem is, you give the Boss easy pickings for the most desirable recruits, including Capo Doctor or Capo Detective.
And we have our first Role Claim!! This is so much more exciting for me than You-Solve-It!! No offense to NAF1138.
So IMHO, the best plan at this point is to leave Pleonast alive and have all the Beat Cops watch him tonight. If he gets killed, Town gets the name of a killer (which might be the Boss if he is still the only Mafia). If not them perhaps one of them will get a true reading of Town or Mafia.
On Night Zero of the last game, Pleonast volunteered to be the killer because he was certain that his playstyle would get him lynched… like it always does. Of course he survives to the end as scum. So when the Town was jumping all over him, I was thinking Pleonast is right, Town loves to lynch him… but only when he is Town (if he is Town this time around, that is).
So I’m not surprised that Pleonast mentioned his history. I am surprised that he claimed. I think he could have mentioned his history and saved the claim for later, but he is clearly impatient with the ‘same’ thing happening to him again. At least in BladeRunner, he really did step in it with a wildly bad idea. The he/she thing, is remarkably minor. Now if they determine that the Boss really is a woman… THEN Town is justified in suspecting Pleonast.
As for having the Beat Cops watch Pleonast: not really going to help, because if that is the plan and the plan is open, then scum can easily work around it (recruit someone else). Town must keep scum guessing as well.
I’m suspicious of CaptnPitt. If I were in the game I’d be looking at him more carefully.
What’s tipping you off?