Forgetting where you came from

Co-worker rant. It was longer, but I got rid of the petty stuff. I still have a couple of issues with this person, one is that she constantly interrupts when I’m helping employees.

Even though she can clearly see that the situation is being taken care of, she jumps in and talks over me. This has become so annoying that now, when an employee approaches my desk, I immediately get up and take them into a conference room. So that problem’s solved.

The bigger problem is her attitude.

She’s management now, but for twenty years she worked on the assembly line and was a union member and even a steward.

She’s loyal, hard-working, energetic, enthusiastic, smart, talented, competent, capable, devoted, agreeable and generally pleasant to be around. (Actually, I think her extreme devotion to her job is one of the reasons why she “helps” me talk to employees – if there’s work to be done, she’s gonna do it.)

But she’s become a complete martinet. She’s more management than management ever thought of being.

She’s completely unsympathetic to hourly employees. She’s suspicious. If their lips are moving, they’re lying. And if she does catch someone in a lie, you’d think she won the lottery. She’s reminds me of Jaubert (sp?), from Les Miserables, except he was more flexible.

If an employee wants to add a new spouse to their medical insurance, she won’t take their word for it that they got married – they have to produce the marriage license or marriage certificate. We’ve never done this before, and as far as I know, no one has ever lied about getting married.

She won’t cut anyone any slack, and she disapproves of the rest of us when we do. Everyone knows the rules, but we also know when it’s okay to bend them.

We follow the Working Agreement (our contract with the union) to the letter – I don’t have any problem with this. Grievances and arbitrations are expensive and they cause hard feelings besides.

But in other areas, you can use your own good judgment and no harm is done.

An example: Computer systems were down all day Monday, so we decided to catch up on the filing. I found out that the new plant nurse was making separate files for short term disability records. I asked her why. She said she thought she was supposed to. I told her she didn’t have to, and she said fine. So the nurse and I decide to file those papers with the other medical records.

But this co-worker decides that a decision of this importance (!) needs a higher authority, so she asked the HR Manager what he thought. (His picture is next to “anal retentive” in the dictionary.) Of course he said no, keep those records separate in case we ever have to compile data or some stupid thing.

If we ever have to compile anything, we’ll do it using the computer records, not the paper files. I couldn’t believe she asked him about this, knowing how persnickety he is. I’m going to go ahead and combine the records anyway, but now I feel like a criminal.

And she talks down to hourly employees. Extremely condescending, treats everyone like a wayward child.

She loves to talk, so when anyone asks even the simplest question, they get chapter and verse, in small words, spoken very slowly. I would be insulted if someone spoke to me that way, and I imagine I’m not the only one who feels like this. (I’m not ultra-sensitive.)

I could go on and on, but you get the idea.

This woman is an excellent employee in many ways, but I feel like she’s a pit bull and the leash could snap any minute.

On the other hand, if you always follow the rules, to the letter, you never have to worry about making decisions or judgments on your own.

Is that what she wants?

Do you think she’s afraid upper management will think she’s disloyal if she’s friendly with her former union brothers and sisters?

She’s handy to have around sometimes. If there’s a disagreeable task to do, she’ll do it. I’ve never heard her express dismay at turning down a job applicant, and she’s not distressed when someone has to be fired.

I don’t think she’s cruel, but if someone gets out of line or breaks a rule, then all’s right in her world if punishment follows.

And this is my problem how? Because I feel I have to be more “lax” (for want of a better word) to counter her rigidity. And when people are finished talking with her, and are demoralized, chastened and angry, I want to apologize for her attitude.

And I’m afraid that this attitude will rub off. Don’t laugh. Another co-worker who used to take a hard line with people now shares her work area with an extremely easy-going extra-sympathetic person, and she says she’s cutting people more slack.

I don’t know why I’m stressing this. At my company, change is constant, and who knows what assignments she or I will have next month.

I think she’d be good in quality audit – machines can be perfect, people can’t.

End of rant. Did you really read this far?

Auntie, your rant gets a solid 9.0 from me.

It was completely made by the line:

Still has me chuckling.

She sounds like a ‘control freak.’ Control freaks are very vulnerable and fun to torture.

Very well-crafted rant. And yes, “control freak” sounds right.

I have a co-worker like that as well, but far more benign. Her “control freaky” behavior manifests itself in writing over other people’s writing, or doodles, and a few other things. For instance, we have to fill out a log book for certain tasks. It’s in this little log book, and we have to put down the date and time we did the task. I like to write my dates 7-11-00 or 7.11.00. You KNOW it’s a date, it’s in the damned date column. But this woman likes to write her dates 7/11/00. So what does she do? She WRITES OVER the dashes or dots on my dates, and makes them slashes. Because - God Forbid anyone write a date the “wrong” way, at least her idea of wrong. I think she’s loosened up on some of this, but I still find it bizarre. But I don’t say anything. It’s bizarre, but pretty harmless.

Auntie, a very solid ten!! We have a person that had to have come from the same sperm and egg.

This admirer of Hitler, Musolini, Stalin and Ghengis Khan will dash up to a desk, point her finger in your face and demand to listen in on your phone calls to determine if they are work related. She will go so far as to demand the name and phone number of the person you were talking to, demand the nature of the business and demand the name and phone number of their superiors.

She then hangs up, and immediately calls back and asks for the person and then their superior. When she is connected, she informs the superior that she has verified that the employee was doing work related business.

I am in purchasing and assets management, you can not believe the number of long time contracts, lucrative purchasing agreements and vendors this woman has chased off. I think one relevant point here is this person is not in my department, not my supervisor and doesn’t have a clue about purchasing and assets management.

This woman she was recently diagnosed with breast cancer. I can not find it within me to find any joy or comfort in her misfortune and ill health. She is the complete definition of a jerk and her family must be absolutely miserable living with her. Yet, to cheer on and hope for advancement of her disease is too much like something she would do.

Live long you squicked bitch!!

Sounds to me like she’s judging everyone else from her moral base line.

She would cheat, steal and lie to the company…so everyone else would too.
BTW…nice rant

I just heard the worst evil manager story I’ve ever heard. A good friend of mine’s company just hired a new high-level manager. Seems that this guy has a habit of calling on people in meetings and making them stand up and sing a song. If they do a good job, he sometimes gives them monetary rewards. Refusing is not an option. He once fired a new salesman who had just been hired because he refused to stand up and sing.

Unfortunately, there’s no legal recourse to this in my “employment at-will” state. Amazing, isn’t it…?

Great rant Auntie. It’s a sad fact of life. Once you take people like that and put them in a postition of power, they very much forget wheere they came from. I find it’s often the same situation with black cops. they feel they need to prove themselves so act more racist than the white cops. You’d think they’d be understanding, but nope.

Yes.

This woman’s sister/ twin must work where I do. This woman and I don’t even work in the same program but she is the most annoying piece of work we have to deal with. She is a wannabe supervisor although she and I actually share the same job status. I have had to remind her of that on several occasions.

She will often come by and start telling our staff what to do and like the little lambs they are, they do it. I have no sympathy when they bitch about it later on. Most people are intimidated by her and even the supervisors have expressed their difficulties in dealing with her. I was asked the other day if I could have a talk with ther… nothing like your supervisor sanctioning you to go and chew someone’s ass off to make your day…

This woman and I have never and will likely never get along personally or professionally, she has some control issues that need working out and me being the uppity fucking Canuck I am I don’t put up with a spec of her bullshit attitude.

She tried to do my job a few years ago and completely fucked things up. When she tried to blame me for her disaster the shit hit the fan and she was the one left standing there in tears. Boo fuckin’ hoo.

Scary thing is, I hear that she is up for a promotion to a supervisory position. I pity the poor bastards that end up under her thumb if she does.

Thanks for starting this thread… I feel so much better now.

I have a few questions for Archer.

If the person you are bitching about is not your supervisor, why do you permit her to jerk you around? She is not your boss but demands to know the name and number of the person you are talking to? And you tell her? You say she is not even in your department but you stand still for this kind of crap? Is she a close relative of some executive of the company? Is she a major stock holder? So she has breast cancer—so what? I have oral cancer and my condition would never be accepted as an excuse for behavior like you describe.

What am I missing?

BTW, Pam, his name is “Javert.”

Remember, to love another person is to see the face of God.

Milossarian - Thank you! :slight_smile: ::AP is dancing around singing “I made Milo chuuuuuuuuuuckle”::

Sneevil – Ha! You’re an evil son of a bitch, aren’t you? Let’s be friends.

Yosemitebabe – meet Sneevil. What would happen if you changed her dates? What if she wrote over your dates in disappearing ink?!

Archer - Thanks. I don’t feel so bad now.

JimmyNipples - She’s afraid of losing control of herself, so she tries to control others – is that what you mean? I dunno. I don’t think so, in her case. She has high expectations for herself, and she can’t understand why other folks have so much trouble getting through life. If everyone would just do like she does, they wouldn’t have any problems.

Athena – is lip-synching allowed? Wouldn’t it be cool if the next guy did an Andy Kauffman and bellowed out the Mighty Mouse theme?

oldscratch – black cops are more racist than white cops? Sounds like a good subject for a pit thread. I’ve only known two black cops. I never saw them in action, but I never heard them denigrate the people they arrested, black or white. Small sample, to be sure.

cher3 – I think you’re right.

Feynn – LOL – glad I could help!!

PunditLisa – Javert – thanks. And – ?? Do you think I’m being too critical of this person?

LouisB, you make a very good point. My supervisor is afraid of this woman and will not back us. He will leap over cubicles to greet here. My supervisors supervisor thinks this woman is the best thing since sliced bread, and he is never around so he doesn’t see her antics. It does no good to complain to our supervisors supervisor, he will tell us to take up the issue with the supervisor because it is the spineless dudes job. We can’t go to our supervisors supervisors supervisor, guess what, this guy and the woman are related!

Ok, I’m not PunditLisa but…

From the sounds of it, she believes she is the only one capable, motivated, and trustworthy enough to do the job. So it’s not that she has forgotten where she came from, but that she is in a postion where she can act on her doubts about her co-workers.

Or at least, that’s my half-informed, of the cuff diagnosis of the situation.

You outlined your reasons very well and I think if I was in your position, I’d be critical of her too, so I don’t think you’re unjustified. It’s beyond irritating to be second-guess and to have a job you can handle hijacked by someone who feels they can do it better.

sigh

“Take my hand; I’ll lead you to salvation
Take my love, for love is everlasting
And remember, the truth that once was spoken
To love another person is to see the face of God.”

I thought it would be cutely ironic to use the famous last lines of Les Miserables (though apparently not famous enough!) since you brought it up. Perhaps if I had sung them???

It’s kind of the theme of the show.

Lisa, making a mental note not to use obscure musical references in the future.

Hey auntiepam. If anything you are being to understanding and generous.

Thanks, oldscratch.

And PunditLisa – boy, do I feel stupid. Well, not really. I haven’t read the book since high school.

(Smart ass.)

No, seriously, I’m in awe of anyone who can remember stuff like this. Plot lines, character names, motivations, shocking developments – I might have a vague recollection of those things in a favorite book.

But actual words? In a book only read once? Uh uh. I’m very envious.

Don’t be impressed, Pam. I’m talking about the cheesy musical, or Cliff’s Notes set to music. Thankfully, I was never forced to read the book in school.

Musical aren’t my thing, but I thought the music was beautiful.
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