Fork 4, Hillary: Now it's Personal

Don’t know how you say that and then drop out the next day.

Didn’t Edwards do just that?

Because Hillary’s voters have skewed towards blue-collar men and older voters (as well as women in general), while Obama’s voters have skewed younger and more affluent. Which one of those two sounds more like West Virginia to you? :slight_smile:

We’ve got another superdelegate for Obama, a DNC member from NC named Jeanette Council.

DemConWatch has Hillary’s superdelegate lead at 14.5.

She can just say she misspoke while distracted by the sniper fire.

Drum up money for her campaign, and then not spend it? Yee.

I don’t even think she’s that low, and my opinion of her is none too high.

When you’re 60, you’ll get confused and say silly things too.

My guess is she has stayed in hoping that Rev. Wright or some other issue would derail Obama. Looks like dressing Cindy Sheehan up like a black pastor wasn’t enough to hurt Obama.

Time for Hillary to leave.

The thing is, this isn’t really about the primaries taking too long. That we Dems have been able to reach all these states that we would normally would not be able to properly get the ground game going in till much later, and that enthusiasm and interest in the Democrats and attention on our platform; it is all to the benefit of the party.

What is hurtful is the way that Hillary has run her campaign specifically. If she wants to stay in to the end so that all the states can vote, that’s fine; actually, I think I could sort of understand and support that. Just so long as she tightens and cleans up her campaign, and wages a friendly one for the sake of the voters, the party, and the Country from here on out however.

Dreaming I know, but after last night I’m really feeling the Hope once again.

I do want to add though, that if Hillary does become VP we will probably have to institute a draft for food tasters.

Anyone think the Bill should sit down with Hillary and say, “Wasn’t Jerry Brown really annoying when he stayed in the 1992 primary race?”

Err, she would spend it to pay off debts. I dunno, maybe we’re just talking past each other. :confused:

How does that work? She “loans” her own money to her campaign – something like $12 million, last I heard. Does she charge interest? Where does she stand compared to others who may have loaned money to the campaign? Who gets paid back first?

I might be mistaken, but I think she takes the money back when enough donations come in to cover her “loan”. I was under the impression that she took some of her money back after the big windfall after the Pennsylvania win. Sounds a bit fishy to me, but I guess she has the right to decide where the donations go - and if they go to paying her back for her personal loan, well…

I doubt she is entitled to any interest payments on it though.

Or she could, like her husband, carry $300k in debts for almost a decade. Isn’t there a law requiring him to pay those debts off? Or for him and Al Gore to split the difference? I noticed that Al Gore has no such standing balance… but John Kerry does, and apparently has just this year moved $12.5M to “authorized committees.”

I see no advantage to Obama to offering her the VP slot and, as you intimated, he’d have to constantly look over his shoulder, or wonder if he should.

Slate explains: What happens to Hillary Clinton’s campaign debt when the primaries are over?

So, basically, her debt can be forgiven.

Pretty gross oversimplification of the column. Yes, her debts can be forgiven, after she goes through what sounds like a fairly arduous and politically humiliating process with her creditors and the FEC.

The fact remains…