I’m singularly qualified to be president. I have a lifetime of experience, and I’m ready to lead the nation on day one. Just like you, because I’m one of you — a regular beer drinking gal.
I don’t mind the tough questions. If you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. Is it hot in here? Why is everybody being mean to me? Is it because I’m a woman?
John McCain’s bomb-bomb-bomb bomb-bomb-Iran policy would be a national security disaster. What I would do instead is obliterate Iran with nuclear missiles. That’s why I voted for the war but oppose it now.
There’s no point in even having a primary in Michigan because it doesn’t count. Unless I win. If I win, every vote counts — except for votes in caucus states.
I have a plan to lower these ridiculous gas prices. I intend to save you $28 over the summer by not maintaining any of our roads or bridges.
I have a plan to get our country out of debt and reinvigorate our economy. To do that, I need to loan myself $12 million. And I need you to go to HillaryClinton.com and give me all you can. Even if you’re 11 years old and have to sell your bicycle.
If the phone rings at 3:00 AM, I’m prepared to jump out of bed and answer it, to save our nation from disaster. But after losing the nomination, I need a few days to make a decision. About what, God only knows.
If the phone rings at 3:00 AM, I’m prepared to jump out of bed and answer it, to save our nation from disaster. But after losing the nomination, I need a few days to make a decision. About what, God only knows.
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[QUOTE=Chris Moise]
Can someone do me a huge favor and type a brief synopsis of the slimy Karl Rove shit Hillary pulled in the primaries? My girlfriend is a staunch Hillary supported and I need some ammo for arguments. I know about the plagiarism accusations against Obama, the flip flop on MI and FLA and staying in the race when it was obvious she had no chance. What other stunts did she pull?
thanks!
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Slightly paraphrased: "Why fiddle dee dee, Rhett! Obama is not a Muslim, as far as I know." <bats eyelashes>
“Obama’s ambitious - look at this essay he wrote in kindergarten!” was, if not Rovian, exceptionally cheesy and ill-conceived. Clinton’s comments that she and McCain had ‘passed the commander in chief test’ and Obama maybe hadn’t might be a better example, though. And “the skies will open up and heavenly choirs will sing” was in very poor taste.
[QUOTE=Phlosphr]
I’d like to send a big FUCK YOU HILLARY out to the masses. This from McCain’s camp this morning: underlining mine
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Is there a way that can be stickied so when someone says “why all the hillary hate” we can direct them to it. There are plenty of other reasons to not like Hillary, but it was obvious to many months ago that some of her tactics were designed to cramp Obama if he became the nominee. Fuck you hillary, sideways with a rusty crowbar.
This is what happens in any hotly contested primary - the candidates for one party criticize each other’s qualifications and then the opposing party uses those points against the eventual nominee. The only difference I see here is that it’s Hillary Clinton’s points being used against Barack Obama; same shit, different year.
[QUOTE=Suse]
This is what happens in any hotly contested primary - the candidates for one party criticize each other’s qualifications and then the opposing party uses those points against the eventual nominee. The only difference I see here is that it’s Hillary Clinton’s points being used against Barack Obama; same shit, different year.
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I understand it’s the same shit different year, but don’t people bitch about it every time it happens? I remember bitching about it in past elections.
[QUOTE=Suse]
This is what happens in any hotly contested primary - the candidates for one party criticize each other’s qualifications and then the opposing party uses those points against the eventual nominee. The only difference I see here is that it’s Hillary Clinton’s points being used against Barack Obama; same shit, different year.
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Name one other candidate who said the other party’s nominee was more qualified to be commander in chief than his intraparty rival.
The best thing Obama could do at this point is distance himself from her as much as possible.
He’ll have to graciously accept her endorsement, have her speak at the convention, and do the obligatory “no names have been ruled out yet” with regard to the VP position. But beyond that, linking himself to her will do him more harm than good. The vast majority of the rabid Hillary supporters will vote for him anyway.
The people who don’t like Hillary, on the other hand…if he is seen as in league with her, that could easily tip the balance between someone voting for him and not voting for him (whether it is a vote for McCain, some 3rd party candidate, or just not voting at all.) If he chooses her for VP, he’s sunk.
[QUOTE=BobLibDem]
Slightly paraphrased: "Why fiddle dee dee, Rhett! Obama is not a Muslim, as far as I know." <bats eyelashes>
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Ridiculously paraphrased. Here is what was actually said.
[QUOTE=60 Minutes interview]
“You don’t believe that Senator Obama’s a Muslim?” Kroft asked Sen. Clinton.
“Of course not. I mean, that, you know, there is no basis for that. I take him on the basis of what he says. And, you know, there isn’t any reason to doubt that,” she replied.
“You said you’d take Senator Obama at his word that he’s not…a Muslim. You don’t believe that he’s…,” Kroft said.
“No. No, there is nothing to base that on. As far as I know,” she said.
“It’s just scurrilous…?” Kroft inquired.
“Look, I have been the target of so many ridiculous rumors, that I have a great deal of sympathy for anybody who gets, you know, smeared with the kind of rumors that go on all the time,” Clinton said.
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(Copied from Politico.com)
Would it hurt people to use the actual quotes instead of interpretations?
Would it hurt people to use the actual quotes instead of interpretations?
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Often, even most times, the broader context matters and can actually completely change the interpretation of something drawn from within it. In this case, not so much. In fact, it’s precisely because she slipped that little “As far as I know” into the middle of otherwise denouncing the rumor, that Obama supporters find it so offensive. She can later go back and point to the fullness of the quote and swear she didn’t really mean anything by it and play all innocent.
But it’s there. Snuck in there like a little dagger.
“As far as I know.”
That was simply uncalled-for in any context. I don’t think it would hurt you to try to understand how hurtful that comment actually was, and how it actually made tamping down those rumors even harder.
[QUOTE=Shayna]
That was simply uncalled-for in any context. I don’t think it would hurt you to try to understand how hurtful that comment actually was, and how it actually made tamping down those rumors even harder.
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I have no problem with anyone expressing that they disapprove of her saying “as far as I know.” That wasn’t my point. My point was that someone asked what she had done or said that was “Rovian” and instead of saying what she actually said or did, they provided snarky interpretations.
[QUOTE=Antinor01]
Would it hurt people to use the actual quotes instead of interpretations?
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I think her words were carefully chosen to both give her cover from actually accusing him of being Muslim and raising enough doubt in peoples’ minds that he might really be one. Classic Clintonian tactic of trying to have it both ways.
[QUOTE=BobLibDem]
I think her words were carefully chosen to both give her cover from actually accusing him of being Muslim and raising enough doubt in peoples’ minds that he might really be one. Classic Clintonian tactic of trying to have it both ways.
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Exactly..but her supporters will never accept that.
[QUOTE=BobLibDem]
I think her words were carefully chosen to both give her cover from actually accusing him of being Muslim and raising enough doubt in peoples’ minds that he might really be one. Classic Clintonian tactic of trying to have it both ways.
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Like I said, I have no issue with people interpreting things. It’s what reporters and pundits do all day. I just don’t like it when only one possible interpretation is given without actually citing the facts of what happened.
[QUOTE=holmes]
Because the Vice President is something you’re offered - not demand. I’m so tired of this ‘she’s a fighter’ bullshit to cover for her lack of class.
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Og, this movie is too long already.
When is Candidate-Zilla going to walk off sulking through the LI Sound…?
Didn’t the tiny Japanese girls in the cage sing already???
She knew from the start
Deep down in her heart
That she and Obama were worlds apart,
But Dean said never mind your part…
Is to be what you’ll be.
It took sixteen super delegates to put her right
And Bill said, “Don’t say I didn’t warn ya!”
After a quickie divorce, she teaches (of course)
And married her personal aide in California…