An attempted rape? You don’t. You just try to delay things until after the midterms.
The week wasn’t nearly enough. The GOP got away with it, but this is because our society and culture still suck with regards to treatment of victims, survivors, and accusers of sexual assault and rape. We treat them like shit, even with some progress being made. In a just society, this wouldn’t have been politically tenable.
You seem really upset about the specific views I have on this issue, and I’m not sure if there’s any point to going on and on reiterating points I’ve made again and again. I think you’re just going to have to accept that some people really disagree with you, and some of us feel very strongly.
For the record, she does seem to have strongly changed her story. Here is the accusation which she made previously:
My recollection is that Blasey Ford was consistent in her story - at least, to the extent that she told it to the media. Her psychiatrist’s notes didn’t cover the full story, but that could have been a failure of note-taking.
Its enough to pick up any low hanging fruit on a 30 year old allegation.
There was nothing there. If there was, someone would have brought it up by now.
Do you know how long it usually takes to find evidence in a murder investigation? I know this is not murder and i know a week does not provide enough time to turn over every stone but it is unreasonable to expect Republicans to let the confirmation go past the midterms. Democrats wouldn’t do it either.
Do you know what the FBI’s opinion is of their chances of finding damning evidence in ANY case 30 years after the fact?
Delaying the confirmation was not a coincidence, it was the entire purpose. If it wasn’t, Pelosi would be conducting the investigation now in an attempt to impeach him. But she isn’t because everyone knew nothing would come of it.
Without evidence, it might as well just be a rumor.
This is enough to demonstrate the chasm between our understandings of the world. Accusers face a nightmare for coming forward – no wonder they usually don’t. The abominable treatment of Ford (and the other accusers, for that matter) is just further evidence of this, and provides further reasons for other possible victims to stay silent. We need to fix our society before there’s any possibility we can be confident of anything approaching your statement here.
What would the employment records prove? That Judge worked at the grocery store during that time frame? She fucking shopped there. She would have known that he worked there.
I remember where several of my classmates worked in high school. If I was crafting a lie, couldn’t I just integrate those true details into my lie instead of adding a verifiably false detail to my story?
But whether she lied or was mistaken or the sexual assault really happened, it adds nothing to say that she was right about Judge working at the grocery store. Unless you are knocking down a strawman that my side is arguing that she must have lied about every single detail in the story.
I fear that your bias about this issue would lead you to somehow believe that if Judge worked there when she said he did that would somehow be corroborating evidence for her story. And likewise, if he did not work there when she said he did, it could be chalked up as the trauma she suffered simply caused her to misremember things and therefore means nothing at all.
Employment records could have set the time frame - she said she saw Judge at the store about six weeks after the assault. If he only worked at the store for a few months, as is common for student jobs, then that could have considerably narrowed the timing of the alleged party. With that info, they could compare it with other records to try and find out other events surrounding this party, which might reveal useful info or jog the memory of others involved.
This is like investigation 101 - try and figure out when it happened.
She said summer of 1982. I’m not sure how “about six weeks later” would narrow that timeframe in any meaningful sense. How would someone not be able to remember such a party from that summer, but if you told them “July,” for example, that would jog their memory?
What other records are you referring to?
I can’t believe this has to be explained to you, but they might find out where everyone was that summer – who traveled where, who worked where, etc., all of which could both shed light on the surrounding events and jog memories (i.e. “we found out you were working at this job on this week, do you recall anything else you were doing around the same time?”). This is just very basic police work, and it wasn’t allowed to happen.
That comment had nothing to do with how accusers are treated. it had to do with the fact that noone is actually focusing on the attempted rape allegations anymore. Probably because noone believes anything would come of it. They probably knew nothing would come of it when they were demanding FBI investigations.
In this case the accuser has already come forward. When I say that someone would have brought it up by now I am talking about any evidence that might support Ford’s uncorroborated allegations. AFAICT the Democrats in congress are not really looking into the allegations anymore and are trying to get Kavanaugh on whether he perjured himself about (1) getting blackout drunk in high school and college; (2) when he first learned about allegations made by another woman; (3) the definition of the sexual terms “boof” the “devil’s triangle” etc,; (4) his role in the nomination and confirmation of Judge William Pryor when he worked in the White house for GW Bush; etc. based on things he said over days of testimony. One thing conspicuously missing is anything having to do with whether he actually committed attempted rape. I think this makes it clear that the Democrats don’t believe they can actually prove anything, they probably always knew that and were just stalling for time. hoping to push things past the midterms.
You know what is investigations 101? Not investigating a 30 year old allegation with no physical evidence or meaningful corroboration. The FBI didn’t WANT to investigate this and got hamstrung by the GOP. They were ORDERED to investigate this. No law enforcement organization would investigate this much beyond what the FBI did on their own. That is not because America is “profoundly” misogynistic, it is because it is almost certainly a waste of time and resources that can be devoted to cases with a real chance of being resolved.
The incident occurred in or around Bethesda, Maryland. There is no statute of limitations for a felony sexual offense in Maryland. Bethesda is a fairly liberal place. They are not investigating.
The police would never investigate a case like this beyond what the FBI already did.
A lot of MeToo supporters changing tack and going with believe only if it helps Biden. Should help deflect attention.
Maybe you should send them snake emojis.
Ummm, #metoo was not the result of Kavanaugh. It kicked off because of Harvey Weinstein. It was fairly apolitical. If you recall, a lot of the men called out for it were liberals. Democratic Senator Al Franken comes to mind.
Some people tried to leverage #metoo to create a presumption of guilt for Kavanaugh but it wasn’t really the same thing. Noone else that got in trouble with #metoo was getting in trouble for things they allegedly did 30 years ago as a minor.
No, it is important to be morally consistent even where emoji area concerned.
Quite bluntly, you cannot expect people to shed tribal bias completely when it comes to determining someone’s guilt or innocence - not when something as immensely important as a U.S. presidential election outcome is at stake. Some set aside their blue/red bias better than others, but almost no one can shed it completely. It’s too important.
Liberals are no less human than conservatives, they are simply human, like all humans.
Hesitating to bring up this thread again; but the New York Times has investigated the claim against Biden, including apparently interviewing everybody they could get ahold of who seemed likely to have relevant information.
Yesterday’s story in Newsweek about her filing a criminal complaint.
I figure this woman will be invited to speak at the GOP convention if she wants to. Or at the least she will be there giving interviews.