Shit, there goes my chances of getting laid.
IIRC, Aeschines is the same moron who yelled at us when people like DrMark0000 or whatever his name was and mswas and other incoherant trolls were banned.
It wasn’t about difference preferences-it was putting down anyone who believed differently from him.
I’m not seeing that. I just reread the entire thread. I see him saying he doesn’t agree, I see posters attacking him for saying he doesn’t equate love with fucking, but I don’t see him “putting down anyone who believed differently from him.” At least, no more than others were doing him for, you know, believing differently than themselves. You’re certainly welcome to show me otherwise.
Wait—you were thinking of DiosaBellisima as your last chance of getting laid?
As for the thread in question, by the end of it I could very definitely sense the sneering, much of it coming from Aeschines, which was taking the thread to a level of hostility far more suitable to the Pit than to IMHO (given that the H inIMHO stands for “Humble,” not “Hostile”) and spoiling what could have been a very good IMHO thread. I get why Frank closed it, and I’m inclined to agree with him.
I’m going to weigh in here (no pun intended).
While I didn’t post in the original thread, as a fatass, I didn’t find it offensive. Obviously the person who started the thread didn’t find themselves attracted to fatasses and wanted to know things about it - and if he wanted to know why someone found a fatass attractive, I don’t find that offensive in the least bit. Some people like fatties, and some don’t. If he wants to get into the minds of those who like fatties, I still don’t find that offensive - and I find fatties who want people to apologize over offending fatties offensive. You’re a fatass, just like me. Some people aren’t attracted to people with large breasts, and some people aren’t attracted to people taller than them, and some people aren’t attracted to blondes. It all comes down to taste. Aeschines shouldn’t have to apologize because you’re a fatass and he doesn’t find you attractive, and he shouldn’t have to apologize for making a generalization in IMHO. Face it - fat people generally aren’t found to be attractive, physically.
Anyone who says that people who judge by appearance are totally shallow is a liar. I could show you a picture of a woman who has one of the most attractive personalities ever, and is one of the best human beings I know, but weighs 350 lbs and has a mustache, and people would scream things like “EW GROSS!” without having met her. As DiosaBellissima said, we all have our preconcieved notions - what makes us better than that is that we take the time to get to know said person.
That said, get over yourselves - you’re fat. I’m fat. Don’t expect people to tell you you’re beautiful - you’re fat, and most people think that’s gross.
(Note: There’s a difference between what I’m talking about - FAT - and being a size 14. I’m bisexual, and I find rail-thin women to be disgusting. Curves = not disgusting).
~Tasha
Let’s see:
Why is having sex with someone who might be considered obese a “kink” and oh my god, videos of someone he considers unattractive! The horror!
Okay, maybe that’s not so bad. Let’s move on, shall we?
Implying that one would HAVE to have something wrong or abnormal about them to ever want to have sex with a FAT PERSON!!!
When someone said that a person’s looks weren’t his or her primary attraction, he replied:
Kind of a put down to people who were talking about their partners, whom they obviously DO “love”.
And:
No one said anything about “rainbows and cupids” or whatever. They simply said they love their SO, and he immediately began to belittle that. Apparently, according to him, sex is only good if the person is “bangable”, or whatever.
Again, sneering, condescending at someone who dares believe otherwise.
Perhaps if his history of being a jackass and a borderline troll wasn’t against him, I would give Aeschines the benefit of the doubt. Unfortunately for him, that’s not the case.
Good call on closing the thread. It was no different than some of drmark’s screeds, in which he’d ask for an opinion then sneer at every “wrong” answer, which was pretty much any answer written by someone other than himself.
I didn’t see tashabot’s post when I hit submit-it wasn’t so much that he has different preferences, it was his sneering, belittling of anyone who MIGHT find those who are overweight attractive, and for people whose outlook on relationships in general were different.
First of all, I replied to the first chunk of your examples up thread before you even posted them. My feelings on the subject can be found up there points up.
He was replying (in the rainbow and cupid area) to a comment that said, “Stop thinking of the women as slabs of meat to be graded.” That’s not someone talking about their SO that they are in love with, that’s someone telling him to stop being a sexist pig. His reply was more than fair, explaining that he wants a woman to be equal in every way. I’m missing what you’re seeing here.
And sorry, I don’t know his history. I’m terrible keeping tabs on the names of folks I know IRL, let alone random people I come across on a message board on the internet. I can honestly say, I can’t remember a single instance he’s stood out to be as an uber douche. Hell, I didn’t even recognize his name until I saw the thread. Go figure.
And I also think the comment about “an 80-year-old with raging leprosy” was perfectly apt and pertinent to the discussion. Here we have people jumping in and saying that THEY are not gasp totally shallow like the OP and that a good personality more than makes up for physical short comings (something, strangely, I actually agree with).
The OP just gave ya an example where maybe her personality might not make up for the short coming. Sure, it was extreme, but so? It got the point across.
Well, wait five minutes. He rarely disappoints.
You might not think that if you were an 80 year old man with similar circumstances. I hate to break it to you, but there’s been an increase in sexual activity at assisted living facilities and nursing homes since the introduction of viagra.
You put vomit porn in the same category as making love with an obese person? Do you realize the message you are sending about yourself and about what you think of other fat people? What about videos of people who live in Bakersfield? Ick!
To me, of course, there’s nothing quirky about fat people or people who live in Bakersfield.
Quite honestly, in my world socially and emotionally there is no stigma about being the “dude that porks the fat chicks.” My world is peopled by many post-menopausal women who find that it’s not as easy to keep the pounds off as it used to be – and by the men who cherish them.
What does have a social stigma (and has for as long as I’ve been a grown woman) are men who talk about sex with women as though the women were just “things” and sex was just a physical release for him.
I’m glad to hear that Aeschines likes to have equal partners while he’s “banging chicks.” Faking it with an equal partner seems like an interesting start.
With Aeschines there seems to be a choice between porking someone and faking cupids, hearts, and rainbows. Tell me why that’s NOT a shallow view of sex?
Yes, Aeschine, I’ll hang onto my dreams of eternal monogamy just a little bit longer – at least until the Class of '09. That’s when our granddaughter graduates from college. (Okay, she’s my step-grandaughter, but I was there when she was born!)
I wish you contentment and fulfillment whichever routes you choose. Just be a little more humble in IMHO or Dopers will think you are not having much sex at all.
In that case, be advised that Aeschines has been regularly dumping on Frank at every opportunity ever since Frank weighed in against drmark.
He has? Huh.
Certainly I made no secret about my dislike of the unholy trinity.
I don’t think it was “poorly worded” he said exactly what he meant, and backed it up later on.
What he did was ask about interests that are not his own while suggesting those interests are freakish and sad. I don’t believe for an instant that he asked about fetishes, beer goggling and settling with open eyed innocence “Gee, I didn’t think any of you would be insulted by that. Whoops!”
Whenever he feels you slighted him or one of the other stooges, yeah.
yea it took me awhile to figure out who this clown was
then I remembered—he was the old paranormal guy (originally I was thinking Lekatt) but then I did a search on old Aeschines. What a tool
this guy ain’t banging anything but his own pud
I have to agree with FMG here. Along with most of the posters there, I wasn’t crazy about Aeschines poor wording, but under the circumstances (it IS after all IMHO), I thought most were behaving themselves.
Aeschines tends to be harsh and judgmental in most of his posts and threads. But I don’t really think his attitude extends all the way to “trolling”. It also seemed that the other posters were doing a good job of keeping the thread on track. Aeschines sneers sometimes, that’s what he does, the subject of the thread isn’t what caused that. (imho).
I guess I don’t think that the responsibility for keeping the thread on track should depend on other posters ignoring or tolerating the OP’s attitude. shrug If, in the future, some other poster decides to try the subject again without the attitude, I can’t see why I’d have a problem with it.
to VC03, DiosaBellissima, and CanvasShoes for supporting me, and thereby supporting logic and sense as well.
I will now respond to the jackass contingent, which, sadly, represents the majority of participants in this thread.