Frank, you're such a tool (for closing my thread, etc.)

Hey Dopers, did you know that the phrase “Feed that to your horse” is bad?

And if you “sneer in all directions” your IMHO thread could be closed? (Otherwise we’d have to rename the forum IMHSO–In My Honest Sneering Opinion.)

Just had to let you know what a tool you are, Frank the Mod, in the “appropriate forum.”

Just posting a thread link for the inquisitive.

Your OP was borderline enough that I felt it necessary to preemptively note other posters, though I chose to leave it open as, handled appropriately, it may have been interesting to some members. Then you sneered at other’s physical taste in partners. Then you sneered at those who believe in romantic love.

You don’t like my closing the thread?

Tough shit.

In fairness, they (the collective they, I’m too lazy to go find specific examples) were being pretty damn snarky to the OP fairly quickly. In fact, I was a little surprised that it was Aeschines that you chose to reprimand.

I remember some very carefully mentioning that they thought he was shallow. I’ll review the thread, and maybe learn something for the future, but it won’t be reopened.

The snarkiness of the responders seemed to me an unfortunate but predictable response to the OP’s blatant trolling.

I have to say that I was surprised that this thread was closed. I found it amusing, although started and worded badly, IMO. But since it was IMHO, who cares? I have seen plenty of threads out there that were worded badly, possibly offensive to some that have stayed the whole course, no matter how it was worded. Frank, your initial warning was understandable, but not the closing of the whole thread.

I never gave my two cents in the thread for some reason. But I have met skinny guys who have found big women attractive. And I have also known some who almost looked at it as a ‘check in the box’ of conquests. It was definitely in the appropriate spot where others could voice their opinions, and if nobody someone found offense to the wording or subject of Aeschines and others who gave offending views, it was the appropriate place for them to make their side known and perhaps educate Aeschines.

Are you, in effect, telling Frank that he can’t recognize a blatant troll? That he’s an incompetent moderator. That’s worse than what I said about him.

There was no trolling. I asked a pretty insightful question, if you ask me, and the thread turned up some very interesting information (if you ask me).

What a buffoon you are.

**DiosaBellissima ** are you sure there was much snarkiness by the posters in that thread. It seemed pretty mild. Maybe you were thinking if another thread?

Aeschines posted a provocative Op and thanks to **Frank’s ** early intervention did not get the roasting he would have received if he had posted the thread in the pit or if **Frank ** at moved it here.

I suppose **Frank ** could have shoved it off to the pit and let it devolve into an attack on Aeschines. As **Frank ** denied Aeschines that pleasure, it looks like Aeschines decided to do it himself.

Jim

Frank’s not the tool here. :rolleyes:

Thing is, Skinny, you are a troll.

Unlike most, I don’t think that’s inherently a bad thing; trolls can be amusing. It’s pretty bad form to keep pretending you’re not, though. Have the stones to admit it, and be proud!

If a similar thread had been opened by an obese person or by a non-obese person who is dating an obese person for the first time, it would not have been closed, and appropriately so. The OP gave me the feeling like he wanted to watch a freak show. It was, in my opinion, generous to even give it a chance.

Gotta ask a serious question here, Aeschines.

Does all that crazy make your head hurt? Or does it feel good, like a nice beer buzz? Are you actually aware of how bad you are, or does it just seem that the rest of us are tapping our heads and pointing at nothing in particular?

Bullshit. Frank spotted it for for it was immediately. He opted to give the thread a chance, but warned everyone that it would be on a short leash. You fucked up, thread was closed.

Won’t call you a fuckwit. It appears you may have a couple of braincells to rub together. Will call you a asshole.

It was an interesting thread, but the fat apologist brigade came out swinging from the get-go and turned it into a stink-fest. I side with Aeschines on this one.

Yeah, I can honestly say I don’t really see what was so tremendously offensive about the OP. And I say that as a fat ass myself. Sure, things could have been worded better, but it’s a fair enough question.

I know that when I gain or lose weight, sex is a bit different. Whether it’s the positions, the sensations, whatever. I’ve always wondered if my partner could tell a difference (and it’s not like most folks would honestly answer that question in person).

So yeah, the OP = a bit crassly worded, but not worthy of some of the truly offended replies. If he had asked if sexing up skinny people is any different, I doubt anyone would say anything. Oh, except that fucking “concentration camp victims” is disgusting. That’s different though. They’re skinny, you see.

The question “What’s it like to have sex with a fat person?” can be fair, but I think the OP clearly has a preconceived negative attitude about fat people having sex.

He chanced on still pics of fat sex porn, but “thank god” he didn’t wind up with a video. Who knows what horrible thing would have happened if he saw fat people in motion?

This chance event got him thinking about what it would be like to have sex with a fat person, “socially and emotionally”. Clearly having sex with a fat person is different emotionally than having sex with a thin person. Maybe he just wants verification that it REALLY IS like riding a moped.

So, he’s looking for some fatties to weigh in, you know, if they’ve actually managed to have sex.

Also, people who have had sex with fatties can weigh in about how it’s a kink, or how they wound up with a fatty because they got really drunk, or if they just got really desperate and settled for fat sex.

“What’s it like?” is a fair question, but OP seems to be as much, if not more interested in “Why would you?” which I don’t consider a fair question.

Having posted the first reply, VC03, I find myself resenting your implication that the “fat apologist brigade” took over from the get-go. I tried to give a thoughtful answer to what I thought was a request for information. Had the OP asked more clearly the question that I now think he wanted to ask (What’s it like to have sex with a person you find repulsive?), I might have taken a flyer at an answer, but it would have been a different one. Because for me fat and repulsive are not synonymous. It appears that for Aeschines they are more closely linked.

I was enjoying the dialogue despite the obvious flare ups, and would have liked to continue to hear various opinions. However, I think Frank made a good decision in closing it, because there was little chance that a reasonable sharing of perspectives was going to occur. Aeschines seemed unable to accept the sexualty of “unattractive” people; many responders seemed to feel obligated to confront him on this rather than just talking amongst ourselves and leaving him to read and learn from the opinions that he had requested.

Thanks, Frank, both for letting us talk and for stopping the train wreck before more damage was done.

And so what if he had a preconceived negative attitude about it? I have a preconceived negative attitude about certain physical traits, that’s why I generally date the guys I date (and please don’t start on this: well you’re missing out! argument. I’m open minded, but that doesn’t change the fact that I’m generally attracted to the same thing). Go ahead an attack me, I suppose, but I am not attracted to fat guys. Perhaps that makes me a hypocrite, but the thought of having sex with an overweight man doesn’t do a thing for me. Actually, I feel the same way about tremendously thin guys. At the same time, I know plenty of guys (and gals alike, actually) that can’t imagine dating anyone thin, because the thought grosses them out or just doesn’t do it for them. So what? We all have our preconceived notions.

And there is all kinds of porn out there. There are plenty of things that I praise God I’ve never stumbled on a video of. Does the fact that I’m not into super hairy girl porn and am therefore thankful that I’ve never stumbled across such a video make me a bad person? We about menstruation porn? Vomit porn? Someone somewhere is getting off to that. It’s a silly argument. Everybody has what does it for them and what doesn’t, there’s nothing wrong with being happy you haven’t stumbled across what doesn’t.

To the “socially and emotionally” point- are you going to tell me that there might not be a bit of a social stigma about being the dude that porks the fat chicks? C’mon. Like I said, I’m fat myself (I’m by no stretch “thick” or “zaftig” or any of those silly euphemisms) and even I realize that all things considered, people can be mean. I’m sure that my boyfriends have gotten a bit of guff from their friends about not dating the 100 lb blonde chick, but they just tell their friends to STFU and that’s that. The criticisms can still get to you though. That can take an emotional toll. Does that make it ok that it happens? No. But it does.

And I don’t think he was looking for fatties to pop in and say that we can actually get laid. He was wondering what draws people to the fat and morbidly obese and what it’s like. So what? It was poorly worded, I agreed to that long long ago, but people here ought to be smart enough to see through the poor turn of phrase.

Also, there is a huge fetish community surrounding the fat to the morbidly obese. Certainly not everyone who bangs a fat person is into that set (most of my bfs previously dated thin girls), but that doesn’t change the fact that there is a kink factor for some people.