Frauds

Does she tell you that YOU should not eat sugar and fat because it’s bad for health while eating it herself?

She says “too much sugar and fat is bad for health” Is a cake or pie one time for family for Thanksgiving considered “too much sugar and fat”?

Exactly my point. Obama, Gore, etc are not telling us that we should not take airplane flights or use cars.

Then what are they telling us?

George Carlin - “A man who was attempting to walk completely around the world, drowned today.”

That all nations need to work together to reduce the total amount of greenhouse emissions released into the atmosphere.

No, not that, that’s sensible and reasonable. What are they really telling us?

Unless you are playing monopoly in a parking lot or something.

That’s cool. But they are not saying that I personally should do anything, right?

Here’s Obama’s speech, is there much that contradicts with this sentiment?

Who exactly? I don’t recall Obama ever saying we should take individual action to reduce our own personal carbon footprints. Maybe Gore’s film made some suggestions about small things we can do, but if I remember correctly, those were fairly minor changes like switching to CFL bulbs (LED bulbs weren’t around back then) and maybe driving more fuel-efficient cars. Certainly nothing approaching “don’t fly overseas”.

Vote rationally.

Just as the US healthcare crisis will not be solved by individual doctors voluntarily treating the uninsured for free, so the looming global environmental catastrophe will not be averted by a few people voluntarily reducing their personal carbon footprint.

You, personally, should do something. You should vote for a government that will enact sensible policies with respect to the environment.

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yay! I’ve done something. Luckily I don’t have to recycle, or get an electric car or anything! :slight_smile:

Why the smiley face? Obviously the government that you voted for didn’t win.

True. So next time I have the opportunity, I will vote again. Until then, I don’t have to do anything different. THAT’S why the smiley face :slight_smile:

Yuu don’t have to, but you may wish to. I drive fuel efficient, low emitting cars. I buy alternative “green” energy from my electric company, and I have upgraded by large appliances to more efficient ones. I am under no illusions that this will stop global climate change, but perhaps will constitute a small step in making greener choices more economically viable. I still fly to Europe every chance I get and putter around in my yacht. So, perhaps I’m a fraud too.

If everyone spent the next few years laughing at the current government, and then elected a sensible one, that would achieve a whole lot more than a bit of extra voluntary recycling. And you’ll buy an electric car along with everyone else, not because you’re a do-gooder, but when there’s a phased-in 300% tax on gasoline to reflect its true cost.

Somebody was Spring cleaning and they found this user name at the bottom of their sock drawer.

These are definitely things that I would do because they have an economic value to me, not because of any global warming/climate change implications.

Is alternative “green” energy from your electric company less expensive than the normal kind?

I plan on doing the first part of your post. And I probably would buy an electric car in those conditions, as it would be more economical to me.