If you’re referencing what Banquet Bear has claimed, then no - Hamas offered to “step down” and let someone else (the PA) “control” the strip, by which they mean, they’ll step back and let the PA take over long enough for Israel to withdraw, then they’ll once again murder the PA officials and take over the strip. You know, like they did last time they came to power.
Hamas has never put disarming on the table.
Babies are dying of malnutrition ie starving to death. Kids are picking through garbage and debris piles for food. People who are starving are being shot and killed for trying to get food from 3 distibution points. They not only bombed hospitals and turned patients into the sreets, they dismantled and destoyed medical equipment. This is genocide, and war crimes, any other country in the world would be condemned, and treated like the murderers they are.
There is already an international warrant out against Netanyahu for crimes against humanity. Not so easy to get something like that enforced against a serving politician, though.
Apparently you don’t know that actual starvation has materialized.
Or that it was happening last year too:
Will you admit you were wrong? Of course not - you’ll just make up more lies.
Also, this (gift link):
I meant the US needs to join in the commendation
I know I wasn’t at all clear.
The bottom line is that he doesn’t see the Palestinians as fully human.
I’m pretty sure you meant to say “condemnation”, there, not “commendation”.
Oh I don’t know…I can see trump giving Bibi a commendation for genocide.
Oops, used the suggestion on my phone. I couldn’t see it properly. I’ll try to be more careful
That is a very unfotunat mistak.
That wasn’t in a reply to me.
Me. Oh, and the people who actually study this shit.
You realize not everyone is in your propaganda bubble and can read the actual news, right?
Really going for broke there, though.
Well, I guess buried in rubble counts as not going anywhere.
…fact check: this is true.
This is nothing but speculation. It imagines a parity with previous situations, not with what Gaza is facing right now, which is mass-death from starvation, almost the entire country in ruins.
Absolutely nothing will be the same as it was before. Hamas aren’t just going to pick up from where they were before. That simply isn’t going to happen.
And Israel never negotiates in good faith. They haven’t in this conflict. They didn’t with Lebanon, with Iran, with Syria. The party to worry about in these negotiations isn’t Hamas. It’s Israel. They breached the last ceasefire which has resulted in this current phase, the most deadly phase of this so-called “war.”
You can go back and read all of my posts. If I’ve gotten something wrong I’ve admitted it. But I’ve called this conflict almost entirely correctly from the start. I hate being right. I wish I was wrong. What Babale doesn’t realise is that I so wish they were right. Because if he were, the Palestinians in Gaza wouldn’t be facing a genocide.
As a general rule dead people - whether blown up, buried in rubble, dead of thirst, perished from disease, or starved to death - tend not to go anywhere, this is true.
There will always be Palestinians in Gaza because that’s where they died.
You don’t actually have to kill everyone for it to be a genocide. I didn’t think I’d ever have to explain that to someone Jewish but here we are.
You don’t have to explain it to me, you disingenuous piece of shit. You can have a genocide by killing one person. What matters is the dolus specialis or special intent. But you don’t actually give a shit about international law; no one does. That’s why you don’t actually understand it well enough to know the most basic component of the legal definition of genocide.
Interesting article on the reluctance of some to admit the facts.
The reason lies in not only Israel’s history as a haven for the Jewish victims of genocide but also an unduly narrow understanding of the meaning of the term, by both the public and the international court of justice (ICJ).
Israel benefits from a halo effect associated with the Holocaust. Because the state of Israel was founded in response to the Nazi genocide, it is harder to accept that the Israeli government in turn would commit genocide. One obviously does not preclude the other, but Israel benefits from the cognitive dissonance.
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That is a better way to understand what the Israeli government today is doing in Gaza. Although the Netanyahu government has displayed a shocking indifference to Palestinian civilian life there, it has not tried to kill all Palestinians. Rather, it has killed enough of them, and imposed conditions of starvation and deprivation that are sufficiently severe, to force them to flee, if things go according to plan. The far-right Israeli ministers Bezalel Smotrich and Itamar Ben-Gvir have openly articulated that goal, as has Netanyahu.
When you’re the only person who seems to understand something one way, maybe it’s time to question if your understanding is correct.
Maybe they’re starving and killing Gazan civilians en masse, but it’s okay because it’s not intentional?
Maybe they’ve openly stated the goal is to get the Gazans to flee Gaza, and they are implementing policies that will result in it, but those two things are completely unrelated and coincidental. No intent at all.
It must be very comforting to be as stupid as you are.
Outside of the echo chamber that is threads where BanquetBear and MrDribble have managed to scare off anyone who’s not as masochistic as me from replying, I’m far from the only person who understands this definition of genocide.
Don’t take it up with me, take it up with the people who defined genocide in international law to have the special intent component.
“They” is doing a lot of work there.
You’re fucking delusional if you think Gazans are going to leave Gaza en masse. How on Earth do you even envision this happening?
I dunno, ask the people who say they’re trying to make it happen.