Fuck all you warmongering pieces of shit

So who are you trusting? Hegseth’s handpicked generals/admirals? Some vague notion of the US military at large, given the order to attack without anything approaching a clearly defined mission or long term plan?

Let me try to break this down in a way that even someone as monumentally stupid as you should be able to understand, @iiandyiiii.

You don’t want the US to go to war with Iran. Neither did Khamenei. Does this mean that you trust him?

The person leading this operation appears to be Vice Admiral Brad Cooper, and as I expected he appears to be a career admiral with little if any controversy surrounding him. I’m sure you can educate me on why he is the Spawn of Satan?

Note, that’s not Admiral Frank Bradley who did the boat strikes. Cooper served under Biden as well.

How do you know what Khamenei wanted? For all we know the Iranian government is going to come off stronger when it’s done. Trump may declare victory and abandon everything. Who the hell knows what’s going to happen? Certainly not Trump and Hegseth, and certainly not you. And that’s the problem – wars of choice like this are inherently unpredictable. When idiots are in charge, as they are, it’s even more so.

No, I don’t trust a handpicked Hegseth flag officer. Certainly not without a clearly defined mission and long term plan, neither of which appear to exist for this war.

Pick a side. This fence sitting is just bullshit.

I’m on the anti-warmonger side. There’s no fence sitting. Trump and Hegseth are malevolent idiots. That Khamenei and the Iranian government are at least as bad doesn’t make it good or okay to start a war with them, with no clear mission and no long term plan.

And fuck you again, liar. Making claims about me without a single cite. Motherfuck you.

You in this whole thread is my cite.

That should make it easy, then. Find a single post, liar.

Again…the whole thread.

Right. No post, no cite, because you got nothing. Fuck you, liar.

Lol! Lmao, even!

Ok bud.

True, he’s an idiot. I would much rather have pretty much any other commander in chief leading this war.

Other than “But Hegseth”, what has he actually done to make you think he’s not competent? Why did Biden put him in charge of a smaller part of the region if he possesses the negative qualities that you presumably assume all “handpicked Hegseth flag officers” have?

How do you even know he’s a “handpicked Hegseth flag officer”? You think the decision to pick him in particular was based on Hegseth’s unique(ly shitty) judgement, as opposed to asking the other Biden era officers who are still part of the command structure today who to promote?

“But Hegseth!”

I think the side he picked is incredibly clear.

Here’s one of the “warmongering pieces of shit” that Andy hates so much - Zelensky:

Your trust in Trump and Hegseth couldn’t be more clear. They’re in charge. Face it. Their decisions. They decide if and when to attack. They decide how to attack. They decide what to do next. And they decide to do it all with no clear mission and no long term plan.

But it’s all okay, because coward fucks like you are comfy at home.

Maybe I need to rephrase it. I’ve served. I volunteered. I’m not there now, but thousands of Americans are. And now they could die because of decisions of Trump and Hegseth. And you’re okay with this? Okay with putting them at this risk of death? Without a clear mission, without a clear plan? Do you think Trump and Hegseth care about them? Have they thought this through? Should presidents even have this power without consulting Congress? Does the Constitution mean so little to you?

I do too but he pretends he hasn’t.

Let me guess, you’ve never served in the military either, right? Another chickenhawk coward?

It would be nice if the Iranian regime went away.

This attack is a bad idea.

These are not contradictory statements.

I have not. I went to a military academy in high school (Culver). My dad and uncles all served.

Not sure why this is remotely relevant.

Just want to see what kind of hawk you are. The cowardly chickenhawk kind. Fuck you, liar. Fuck you, coward.

It’s for the same reason that he keeps ignoring the question about why he thinks Israel should be OK with a “peace deal” that leaves Iran with the ability to mass manufacture ballistic missiles until it poses an existential threat - or why Israel should pretend there’s a “peace deal” in place while Iran is actively attacking Israel through proxies - if he admits that he doesn’t give a shit about existential threats to Israel, then it’s obvious that no one who does should care about anything he says.

Likewise, if he admits that he thinks America Bad and in the wrong in any conflict with any regime, no matter how horrendous they are or what actions they are engaged him - then it would be very obvious that no one should take any of his opinions seriously.

Because now he will go back to stroking himself while calling people who disagree with him cowards. It’s one of his two moves, along with incredulously demanding “YOU TRUST TRUMP?!?!??!”

Ah…you are of the Starship Troopers government kind of mindset. Makes more sense now.

I’m the “war should be the absolute last resort” kind. Not “war is okay even with fucking idiots in charge as long as the other side is bad”. That’s some of the dumbest shit in human history.