I know you’re joking, but also literally Hawai’i.
@Wesley_Clark will want ONE MORE TIME. Name it! If you can’t, one point to the folks cheering on this unnecessary and extremely stupid war the US has solidly lost. That will cost us $300B on top of all the capital and human cost we’ve already sunk into it.
Also, remember when Obama did far worse? Just kidding!
It’s quicker to list the continents where we didn’t.
Antarctica.
Are you fine with Iran’s government being massively strengthened and enriched, as it was in this war?
Was there one in Oceania ever? Maybe one of the archipelagos? I’m not that familiar with their history.
Edit: never mind, apparently Hawaii is considered a part of Oceania.
We interfered in elections in Australia, there’s a very long history with the Philippines, we helped overthrow Sukarno in Indonesia, and I’m sure there’s more.
This. Warmongering tends to focus on very aspirational notions of the war we’d like to be fighting, rather than the realities of the war we actually are fighting.
In the real-life war we actually are fighting, it’s US munitions stocks that are being dangerously depleted, more thsn Iran’s.
Has anyone read the terms of Trump’s deal with Iran? I’m not an expert, and my analysis doesn’t go any deeper than “It was a terrible idea” but it seems like the most embarrassing capitulation imaginable. $300 billion in reparations? In exchange for what? A promise not to pursue nuclear weapons that isn’t worth the paper it’s printed on?
…America killed over a hundred schoolgirls in a single attack. They helped kill nearly the entire Iranian leadership. Imagine if Iran killed most of Congress, the President and the Pope for good measure. If Iran did that, then they lost the war; I wouldn’t object to reparations.
My guess is: In exchange for the prospect of restoring unrestricted traffic in the Strait of Hormuz in time for Americans to experience significantly reduced summer-travel gas prices.
The Iranians would be fools not to milk that situation for all it’s worth, and the Iranians are evidently very far from being fools. (Although, tbf, it doesn’t take much to look clever next to Trump and his clown gang.)
Anyone notice that @Babale is, in fact, not discussing the war elsewhere? I wonder if maybe he’s embarrassed by his own incredible stupidity?
In fact, after a bit of searching, Babs hasn’t talked at all about the war since May 1st. What gives, Babs? Why are you holding back on us?
I mean, not to put too fine a point on it, but screwing around with the domestic politics of smaller countries that could barely defend themselves kind of became our hobby after WWII. CIA interventions in third world countries during the Cold War are well documented. And it was true even before WWII in Central and South America to a lesser extent. It was usually done in order to “protect American interests” or to “prevent the spread of communism.”
There are two novels people that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: One is Samuel Langhorne Clemens the other is Smedley Darlington Butler.
Reading whatever book it was (probably Inside the Company: CIA Diary by Philip Agee (1975)) about the Church Committee hearings didn’t hurt either.
While I generally agree, I think US interference stayed constant or even decreased after WWII. Or at least, got a whole lot more subtle. Remember, the US basically destroyed every first nation it encountered, then around 1890 or so, as westward expansion slowed, it developped puppet governments or direct military control of Hawaii, Guam, Puerto Rico, Cuba, the Philippines, Haiti, the Dominican Republic, Nicaragua, and Honduras for 40 or so years.
Before WWII it was the Marines, after WWII it was, mostly, the CIA.
I suspect the 300 billion fund was the primary endgame all along, and the reason that Kushner and Witkoff were doing the “negotiations”.
It’s not going to be an outright gift to Iran, they are essentially opening up Iran for investment, a new feeding ground for the money-sucking vampires that surround Trump, big opportunities for them to get rich fixing what we just broke while getting a big cut of their natural resources.
Trump and the team cared nothing about nuclear enrichment percentages or missile programs or Islamic ideology- that was just the script they used as a cover.
From the beginning, it was about running the same protection racket they ran in Venezuela- come in, break a lot of stuff to show them you mean business, kill leaders until you find someone that’s willing to play ball, then demand a cut of their resources for you and your billionaire cronies.
We didn’t elect a president, we elected a mob boss and gave him the world’s largest standing army and some nukes.
If this happened, many of us would take a week to stop smiling. We’d have to add a new holiday to the calendar to commemorate the event for years to come!
Looks like this might have struck a nerve – just a few hours after this post, for the first time since May 1st, Babs actually talked about the war here (sort of, anyway):
So… Babs, were you right or wrong to support this war? Maybe we were right after all, and this massive failure and Iranian victory was very, very predictable?
This has to be a joke post, right?
No, he’s really that dumb.