Fuck France, and Fuck the French!

The BBQ Pit
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[QUOTE=GomiBoy]
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Labrador Deceiver Yes. Anything else? Did you forget to read the fucking dates on your site of photos of tuna catches and tagging? Tuna stocks are incredibly low all through the North Atlantic and Mediterranean. The only nearly-high stocks of Tuna in the world, either yellow- or blue-fin, are in the Pacific and those are rapidly declining. Just in case you’re lazy as well as meaninglessly argumentative here are some links for you
tuna stocks in decline link 2
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My God you’re a moron. What does any of that have to do with the fact that Salad Nicoise was created by the French outside of Paris and intended to employ fresh, not canned, ingredients.

Do you even remeber why we’re having the conversation, or do you think everyone here will just forget if you change the subject enough?

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This whole thread is a ‘social experiment’, right?

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[QUOTE=Muffin]
Forget the rant and the blowback. What’s important is the skiing. Tell us about the skiing.
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I snowboarded Sunday (day 1), which was a lovely sunny day but the snow was a bit skiied off.

M-T-W I skied, and had sun. Conditions remained icy, but spring-like in the afternoons with nice warm squishy snow.

Th we took the day off to go down to Bourg St Maurice for shopping and whatnot. It rained and was cloudy pretty much all day, but we didn’t ski.

Fri a fog rolled in, which eventually turned to snow on the upper mountain, but not much. Ski conditions started getting better but vis was flat and foggy and snow didn’t start to accumulate until much later - made the icy runs quite challenging.

Saturday we got heavy snow pretty much all day, and the conditions just got better and better. We were off-piste most of the day, and ran into mixed heavy powder and cornices. Light was flat, but conditions kept getting better and better. I wound up skiing down through trees with my mate, got totally lost, and had to hike 1.5km back to the pistes before coming home. Just as we sat down for final beers in the resort, the sun came out. So it was a brilliant last couple of days :slight_smile:

Labrador Deceiver - get fucked. You’re bringing up ancient cites, then complain when I answer them? Why not pull your head out of your arse sharpish and see how the world looks.

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[QUOTE=Mangetout]
This whole thread is a ‘social experiment’, right?
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Well if it is, the results are starting to convince me. While the plural of anecdote is not data (and nor, indeed, is it “anecdotiskitaliwibble”), the evidence does seem to point to a conclusion that 100% of GomiBoys leave something to be desired.

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[QUOTE=GomiBoy]

Labrador Deceiver - get fucked. You’re bringing up ancient cites, then complain when I answer them? Why not pull your head out of your arse sharpish and see how the world looks.
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Please demonstrte how the age of my cites negates my original point.

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[QUOTE=jjimm]
Well if it is, the results are starting to convince me. While the plural of anecdote is not data (and nor, indeed, is it “anecdotiskitaliwibble”), the evidence does seem to point to a conclusion that 100% of GomiBoys leave something to be desired.
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And the bureau of made-up statistics says 90% of people think you’re a jackass. Or maybe that’s just me. Yes, it’s just me - jackass.

Labrador Deceiver:
You said fresh locally sourced ingredients were critical to French cuisine. Yes, Salade nicoise was invented in France. Yes, the ingredients used to be locally sourced. But I would hazard a guess that due to sharply declining stocks of yellow-fin tuna in both the Mediterranean and the North Atlantic, cheaper and more easily sourced alternatives which are NOT local have been used. I would assume as well that since the distance traveled is somewhat high, that these ingredients would be canned rather than fresh.

The age of your cites indicates that you may be out of touch with the current state of fishing stocks of tuna in the North Atlantic and Med, as well as out of touch with the majority of reality, so therefore I believe the age of your cites indicates a lack of knowledge on your part of the source of the ingredients in your precious fucking salade nicoise.

So therefore your salade, which you can ram directly up your arse with a large pole, is neither 1. locally sourced, or 2. fresh as you claim since at least one ingredient which differentiates salade nicoise from simple fucking garden salad with an egg on it is neither.

So you are full of shit, in parlance you might understand better, you pathetic whiney bitch.

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[QUOTE=GomiBoy]
And the bureau of made-up statistics says 90% of people think you’re a jackass. Or maybe that’s just me. Yes, it’s just me - jackass.

Labrador Deceiver:
You said fresh locally sourced ingredients were critical to French cuisine. Yes, Salade nicoise was invented in France. Yes, the ingredients used to be locally sourced. But I would hazard a guess that due to sharply declining stocks of yellow-fin tuna in both the Mediterranean and the North Atlantic, cheaper and more easily sourced alternatives which are NOT local have been used. I would assume as well that since the distance traveled is somewhat high, that these ingredients would be canned rather than fresh.

The age of your cites indicates that you may be out of touch with the current state of fishing stocks of tuna in the North Atlantic and Med, as well as out of touch with the majority of reality, so therefore I believe the age of your cites indicates a lack of knowledge on your part of the source of the ingredients in your precious fucking salade nicoise.

So therefore your salade, which you can ram directly up your arse with a large pole, is neither 1. locally sourced, or 2. fresh as you claim since at least one ingredient which differentiates salade nicoise from simple fucking garden salad with an egg on it is neither.

So you are full of shit, in parlance you might understand better, you pathetic whiney bitch.
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Nice try.

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So far, all that’s happening here is I’m tending to think the French had a point.

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[QUOTE=Labrador Deceiver]
Nice try.
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Why bother to say anything if the outcome is pre-decided in your mind then? You will be the winner because you’ve decided to be the winner. So enjoy your pathetic fucking self-declared victory you slimy prick.

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[QUOTE=GomiBoy]
Why bother to say anything if the outcome is pre-decided in your mind then? You will be the winner because you’ve decided to be the winner. So enjoy your pathetic fucking self-declared victory you slimy prick.
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Okay. Enjoy your canned-tuna salad.

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[QUOTE=Mangetout]
So far, all that’s happening here is I’m tending to think the French had a point.
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Maybe they did. Maybe I am an asshole. I for one will wait for empirical evidence of this in real life rather than listen to a bunch of wankers on a message board.

I’m starting to think that maybe I had a point when I stopped posting here for months on end because all the fun was taken out of it by miserable pedants and assholes with axes to grind.

I’m not referring to you, I’m just sayin’.

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[QUOTE=Labrador Deceiver]
Okay. Enjoy your canned-tuna salad.
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No thanks, I prefer not to eat things from cans.

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[QUOTE=Mangetout]
So far, all that’s happening here is I’m tending to think the French had a point.
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Well actually if they rolled up the country as Gomiboy earlier suggested, they’d have a number of points. Sharp ones.

Anyways, all this foul and abusive language is really not on chaps…I mean, civility costs nuffink

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[QUOTE=GomiBoy]
No thanks, I prefer not to eat things from cans.
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Oh.

Well, then it’s a good thing they’re still pulling about 40,000 tons of Albacore Tuna out of the Bay of Biscay & Northern Atlantic per year.

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My experiences of French people have always been good,I speak French pretty badly but always make the effort which they seem to appreciate,I suppose i might be biased as I’ve had two French girlfriends one of them very recently.

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[QUOTE=chowder]
Anyways, all this foul and abusive language is really not on chaps…I mean, civility costs nuffink
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So when I am getting dogpiled by half-wits, who are personally insulting me, I should be civil?

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[QUOTE=GomiBoy]
So when I am getting dogpiled by half-wits, who are personally insulting me, I should be civil?
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Whooooosh :stuck_out_tongue:

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[QUOTE=chowder]
Whooooosh :stuck_out_tongue:
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Damn it. You fucker.

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[QUOTE=GomiBoy]
Damn it. You fucker.
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::cackles manically in a Northern accent ::

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[QUOTE=Labrador Deceiver]
Oh.

Well, then it’s a good thing they’re still pulling about 40,000 tons of Albacore Tuna out of the Bay of Biscay & Northern Atlantic per year.
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You again? Aren’t you getting tired of getting spanked every time you open your mouth?

You do realize you can’t just make shit up and be believed, right? Because unless you’ve some magical source I can’t find or the French have some magical means of pulling fresh tuna out of their ass (which wouldn’t actually surprise me much), you are full of shit.

source about half-way down; mostly about driftnet fishing, says total Atlantic yield for England, France, and Ireland combined is 30-60k tons. Means the French aren’t getting 40k tons of fresh tuna per year then doesn’t it? Unless something magical and mysterious has happened in world fishery stocks which I kind of find doubtful. And not even all of that catch was Albacore; it was mostly yellow-fin.

Longline Fishing (sorry PDF) is another way to catch tuna, but that is primarily done in the South Pacific and very little long-line fishing is done in the North Atlantic or Med. And TOTAL yield there in 2004 was 28000 metric tons split amongst about 10 nations who all fish there. So still a far cry out from your idiotic claim of 40k tons per year now isn’t it.

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[QUOTE=earthtrust.org]
The North Atlantic
The French claim that their incidental catch of birds and mammals has been “negligible” (FAO 1990, para 4d), although fishermen and observers report takings of common dolphin, striped dolphin, and bottlenose dolphin (Bonnemains and Kanas 1990). The French averaged 1.5 dolphins caught per trip, resulting in estimates of an annual by-catch of between 2,00010,000 dolphins caught by French driftnets. In 1990, the fleet caught 1,600 metric tons of albacore tuna, 200 tons of bluefin tuna and swordfish, 200 tons of Ray’s bream (swallow fish) and at least 200 tons of blue shark. The blue shark were thrown away. During the 1992 season, 4,000 metric tons of albacore were caught. Albacore and other tunas reportedly comprised 86 percent of the catch. By-catch included wreckfish, swordfish, shortfin mako shark, blue shark, Atlantic pomfret, cetaceans (mostly striped and common dolphins), turtles, and birds (Tuna Newsletter 1993).

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The Mediterranean

The Mediterranean high seas begins 6 to 12 miles off the coast of most of the bordering States. Large scale driftnetting has been conducted in the Central Mediterranean by Italian fishermen (Di Natale and Notarbartolo-di-Sciara 1990). More than 700 boats fished for an annual catch of 5000 tons of swordfish and 1000 tons of albacore using nets from 2 to 40 km, with an average of 12 km.
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So either you’re a liar, or just too lazy and stupid to do your own research, but in any case you are full of shit.