Most of the time it would go through the mainstream slaughter industry, which typically stuns the animal then kills it.
Halal and Kosher butchers will follow their prescribed methods.
Licensing and inspection of facilities doing the work will be required for public health.
Yes.
Kosher - or more properly, shechita - slaughter rules were set down a couple thousand years before the captive bolt technique was an option. Unfortunately, it is forbidden to stun the animal before killing it and still have it kosher. However, properly followed technique severs all the major blood vessels of the neck, along with the windpipe and esophagus very quickly. Unconsciousness is almost immediate and death occurs extremely rapidly due to blood loss. Whether or not that is acceptable will depend upon the viewer.
There isn’t any means to “update” or change Jewish ritual slaughter rules. If that’s a problem if you dine at a kosher household or business you might want to stick to fish or vegetarian dishes.
I’ve had good luck rankness-wise with goat the past decade or so, although I have been near some rank-smelling ones in the past that caused me to not try it for awhile. But what I haven’t had luck with is finding boneless goat. For some reason goat with the bones still in seems to be becoming more common, and in fact, one Indian restaurant that used to have goat now advertises “bone-in goat”, which at least warns me what I would be getting. It’s a shame too since the few times I’ve tried it it’s been great, if anything, less gamey tasting than sheep, if it were not for having to at the very least chew very carefully with every bite, if not leave a lot of the meat still on the bone which just won’t come off without a good masticating which I don’t feel like doing for fear of setting loose more bone shards into my mouth.
I’m not sure it’s a net positive. I am very sure it’s not net-negative. Here’s why:
Everyone here is wrongly focusing on “MAGA likes dogs”. Sure they do. But that doesn’t figure into this at all.
This story, like so many others before it, would go over very differently if you confined MAGA in a room and make them watch unaltered footage and primary sources, that they were forced to look at the dead-honest facts of what actually happened.
But that’s not their media reality and it never will be. They sit down in front of Fox News or their online news bubble. They are spoon-fed the product that they sat down to consume: Kristi Noem did a sad but necessary “Old Yeller” and the libs are howling about it. They chuckle to themselves “silly libs” and promptly forget about the whole thing.
The only way this story gets any legs if is one of Noem’s Republican rivals decides to give it legs. Republicans might believe a Republican, but what Republican would bother with a story that other Republicans have already decided is a nothingburger? Can you imagine Marge Greene or Nikki Haley pointing a righteous finger at Noem saying “that lady killed a puppy! Trump is better than that!”
It’s just not a language they speak. If they did, it would get nothing but guffaws.
We’ll see, I guess. I’m seeing lots of headlines about outrage on social media platforms across the political spectrum, from Dems and Republicans alike. There is certainly a media bubble, but I don’t think it’s impermeable.
What I find interesting is how many of the articles quote actual farmers and ranchers who are disgusted by this, who laugh at the notion that this is how it’s done and “city folk just don’t understand.” This story seems to have legs. But who knows, maybe someone will take a shotgun to the reporting and it will be a dim memory a month from now. But I don’t think so.
Of course conservatives won’t care if Trump picks get for VP. I’m sure the Rick Rocks of the world will have plenty of time to justify it. Just look they’ve already started laying down the AstroTurf in this thread
Since this story broke I’ve read a bit about her political news.
Crikey, this person if some kinda nut bag.
I remember reading about her sketchy teeth work she had done and making ads or testimonials on the practice.
She has done so much bad for her state.
No wonder she wants to go to Washington. Before they tar and feather her.
Then the dummy writes this book telling the tale of killing animals for no reason except she “hated” them.
What is wrong with the people who vote for politicians like this?
How do they keep justifying it?
South Dakota Republican Gov. Kristi Noem has “no shot” at being Donald Trump’s running mate after revealing in a forthcoming book that she shot and killed her puppy, sources close to the 45th president tell The Post
Its pretty much a no brainer. You don’t choose a puppy murderer as a running mate, it doesn’t take a political genius to make that call. And, again, there are plenty of other spineless charisma free empty suits willing to betray their oath of office for Trump, why would he choose the puppy killer?
Temple Grandin, who is autistic, was a pioneer in slaughterhouse design - and she’s a also a huge advocate of animal welfare reform in the cattle industry.
I read a long piece or maybe even a book about her years ago, and the one thing I remember most was how important the humane treatment is from a practical and financial point of view.
Basically, it comes down to the fact that cows spook easily, and if they don’t want to walk through the chutes, if they balk and refuse to move, the process doesn’t work. I believe there were cases where badly designed slaughter operations had to be completely abandoned because the cattle refused to move through them.
Heres a link to an article on her (its not the piece I read 25-30 years ago)
She never had a shot as VP. She would’ve never come close.
The reason I say that is not because of the scandals themselves, but the fact that some of the scandals were pushed out by someone inside the house. Some faction in the MAGAverse hates her.
The story about her relationship with Corey Lewandowski, amusingly titled “This is Why Republicans Can’t Have Nice Things”, was published by American Greatness, one of the Trumpiest Trump sites out there.
I’ve got some bad news for those of you who hope the story loses Noem a lot of votes: I’ve lived in the country and around farm people too, and you’re wrong. Mostly those country people are flat-out brutal towards animals, are somewhat smug about it, and don’t see it as a flaw. We’re talking about people who hunt deer and squirrels and gamebids avidly and joyfully when the season is on, look on the hunted quarry as just animate meat, or just a thing they can shoot at. Plenty of them shoot groundhogs and other creatures there are no regulations around hunting just for target practice or just for fun, don’t use the carcasses for food or anything else, , and don’t care about it. I’ve known country and smalltown boys who enjoyed running down stray cats and small wildlife on the highway just because they could, but I’ve never heard of city or suburban kids doing that. Nor did their neighbors object to that sort of behavior because “they’re just animals, after all.”
Shooting a hunting dog who’s gun shy or not a good hunter otherwise was so common back there, and uncontroversial, that while the account of Noem’s heinous acts did make me sad and angry it wasn’t surprising at all. I’ve known people who would do just that for just that reason. It’s just the oft-heard brag of “we treat our dogs like dogs, not people” carried out fully–it’s not a living being to them, it’s their possession, their tool, and if they think it’s not a useful tool they throw it away.
The execution of the poor billy goat for knocking down kids and smelling bad was also par for the course, and nobody’s neighbors would have been concerned about the cruelty of it. After all, according to farmer logic, the goat was her property, so she had the right to beat him, shoot him, hang him or light him on fire by that reckoning. And he was “knocking down kids”–the horror! That aggression would make the animal’s life forfeit on the spot to them, and to many of you on this message board from what I’ve read here TBQH.
The people she’s aiming her book at and seeking votes from are the people who think “They’re just animals, after all” makes hurting those animals a minimal concern if not laughable, and those people will vote for Noem either without a thought toward her brutal attitude towards animals, or else a smug “That oughtta show those goddamn humaniacs what’s what!”
OK, if her target audience is “rural sociopaths” then I agree this book will likely help her with that audience. But it seems to me that demographic is:
Very small as a segment of both the voting and book buying public, and
Already in the bag for Trump.
Assuming the goal of this book is to raise her political prospects nationally, it seems like an enormous misfire.