We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity.
Good thing we’re in Afghanistan to right all of these wrongs. Any day now everything is going to be peachy over there.
I hold them to be self-evident.
How’s that?
Apparently if one right isn’t universal then none of them can be. Funny, that.
Well it is universal, just like the mother’s right to control her own body. Fist swinging rights always end at the nose.
Oh my god, Ann Coulter posts to the SDMB.
Tsk. Ann Coulter would never say anything like that. :rolleyes:
It’d be, “we should invade their leaders, kill everybody, and convert the ones we missed to Christianity.” Possibly followed by, “it’s what Jesus would do.”
In some cases, it appears rights end at the balls.
I have an idea. Let’s bomb Afghanistan.
Aha! This one’s got it!
Exactly, my right to swing fists ends at your balls and other people’s uteruses.
Or little altar boys who don’t want to be raped by priests, eh?
My remark about bombing was the expression of my pit-level feelings, not a rational great debate suggestion.
As for women being the brunt, I did that thread sometime in the last few years. I believe it was something about John Lennon being right: woman is the nigger of the world. It was a great debate.
And thanks for the likage. 
It would really be more accurate to say that I have taken a stand against absolute moral relativism - I’m with Lissener.
You’re perfectly entitled to save all the unborn fetuses you want–but you have to gestate them yourself. You don’t get to use adult women as incubators. So, how’s that surgery to implant a fetus into your peritoneum going? Have you picked out a name yet? And how many more poor, pitiful unborn fetuses are you planning on hosting? At least one per year, right–unless you’re going for twins?
Oh, you aren’t planning on doing that? You aren’t even planning on adopting five or six unwanted already born babies? Then you don’t get a vote. Fuck off.
Some things should be judged, and harshly. I see this as one of those things. Not that it will happen, these apparenlty were local warlords and mullahs (?) and it was the police that helped them in “recovering” the girls. In short, they can do whatever they please.
There is ummmm, one charming cultural custom that could apply, but I don’t see it happening - the custom of vendetta or blood feud, where a family member takes revenge in the name of those relatives who can’t do it themselves.
What? it’s just a cultural thing. Why judge?
(tongue in cheek).
Would that be before, or after we rape the cattle and stampede the women?
Yeah, unless the penis-owning person bitching about abortion is busy adopting or otherwise caring for the unwanted children already in the world, I write off their concern for the unborn as concern about losing the one surefire way men always counted on for keeping women in line.
But they don’t really need to worry too much, women like it, so they’ll always do it, and it will always temper the social, financial, political and other non-family based power gains that women make in the world.
The Jainist religion argues that all animals, including microscopic insects, have a basic right to life.
Do you argue, along with the Jainists, that animals have basic rights? If not, why not? And, if not, why should others go along with your argument on basic rights, which is based on a religious belief just like that of the Jainists? Why ought we as humans be bound to the beliefs of, not a religion, but a specific, conservative subset of a religion when not all humans are part of that religion?
This thread is now about abortion.
Yeah, and I write this off as a long-winded way of saying “Shut up, man who doesn’t agree with me”, because it’s not like the availability of adopters has a great deal to do with the putative right to abortion; as I’m sure many would argue - and many *have *argued, right here - that it’s iniquitous to expect a woman to continue with an unwanted pregnancy even if there’s a good home awaiting the infant the instant it falls out of her crotch.
Are there really any cultural relativists in the world? It certainly isn’t anything I’ve ever encountered in my liberal, academic background, or heard about from my liberal, social worker wife with her undergrad degree in Anthropology. I never heard it defended in the Anthropology or Sociology courses I took in college, I’ve never heard it defended by politicians of any stripe or even casually by personal aquaintances.
The only time I’ve heard anything close is from Fundamentalist Biblical apologists making excuses for Old Testament atrocities.
The idea that cultural relativism is some sacred tenant of political liberalism (or that the sentiment even exists at all among liberals) is, I think, complete mythology.
It was western feminists who were decrying the Taliban long before conservatives ever cared, and it’s liberals who have always condemned female genital mutilation, violent homophobia and other 'cultural" human rights abuses across the world.
Who are these alleged liberal defenders of “cultural relativism” anyway? Can anyone name a prominent one?