Not to defend Ann Coulter, but no she wouldn’t.
There is no such thing as an “unborn woman.”
Nice derail (or is it a hijack?) we have here.
This thread is NOW about pancakes vs waffles.
I enjoy both pancakes AND waffles, halp SDMB what should I think? :eek:
Pancakes and waffles are both delicious.
Why do these sorts of rants seem to come back to men vs. women, whites vs. black, religious vs. non-religious…? Yes, I’m angry that these things happen to women. But at the same time, I angry that these cultures do horrible things to men, to those who hold differing religious views, or are the wrong race. I’m frankly tired that anyone is taking the cruelty, oppression, and violence of humanity, whether that person be man, woman, white, black, brown, green, Christian, Islamic, Atheist…
And regarding human rights, as others said, I’m not really sure what that means. If you believe they’re endowed by God then, obviously, if you believe in a different god you’ll have different views about what they are. Otherwise, they’re a social construct in which either you start with all rights, and trade some away as part of social order (eg, I promise not to kill you if you promise not to kill me), or they only exist inside of the social order in which everyone effectively agrees that certain rights are a good idea.
In either case, inside of our values, in which we value the lives of everyone, I can’t see you can justify a statement that the world would somehow be a better place by eliminating these cultures. Sure, you take out the cruel, violent oppressors, but you also take out the very victims that inspired you to want to wipe them out in the first place.
It’s quite the dichotomy; Team A cannot support the atrocities being committed in the name of culture, yet cannot support the extreme intervention necessary to stop the atrocities. Team B can support (or ignore) the atrocities as a form of cultural relativism and is perfectly willing to engage in the intervention required to stop them, thereby engaging in a differing kind of atrocity.
The question to answer is this; are we willing to become monsters to remove power from the monsters?
Are you saying that killing a murderer who is about to murder my brother makes me a monster? If so, yes, I’m quite fine becoming a monster to stop other monsters.
Or, you could believe that you’re endowed more than other men.
How about everyone just stop being shits to each other?
Never!
Nailed it.
This is why we need space-based lasers. We need to be able to turn individuals in the most remote mountainous tribal villages into greasy dirt spots on the ground.
Thusfar in human history, the answer to that has consistently been “no u.”
And…?
And it was.
I, too, would like to know where the cultural relativists are. I always figured it was a conservative thing … their culture is different, we should respect it, unless it conflicts with our culture, in which case we can kill them, and they should respect that, because our culture is different too.
Falls out of her crotch? Fuck you. Sideways. With something sharp and rusty.
Countdown till Malacandra begins his perennial lament that he just can’t understand why people think he’s a misogynist. :rolleyes:
If an aborted she-fetus is converted does that make them “unborn again” or just born? It’s kind of like working with negative numbers.
I think for most people it goes without saying they judge rape and brutality as wrong and as such it’s not necessary for them to say so when writing about the people who do it. Very few histories of the Holocaust begin with anything equivalent to the historian saying “Just so everybody knows, I am completely against what the Nazis did”.