Oh, that one! I was thinking it might have been Eve of Destructon.
By Barry McGuire?
Oh, yeah, I always get those two mixed up. But I’ll never forget Peter, Paul, and Barry.
The point wasn’t the lyrics. It was the mode of dress, the lack of vulgarity, the civility and maturity…you know: all the things that created racism and made that era a cesspool. :rolleyes:
More later as I’m involved in Christmas family activity today.
All qualities he got from his atheist Dad. (That’s a true story, you could look it up…)
What exactly do you miss?
It’s the hair isn’t it? People make fun of your hair today?
Maybe you’re upset that we don’t show enough chest hair these days. You like 'em manly, no?
Perhaps kids these days just don’t kill enough of those evil animals for your taste.
Aw, I see a pattern. PETA pissed you off, and you know that Ricky would have told PETA to fuck off.
Perhaps it was the strong family values that you miss. Poor Rick’s wife must have been heartbroken when he died. Oh, that’s right, they were divorced. David, on the other hand is alive and well. I’d discuss his wife, but you’d have to tell me which one to talk about.
The 50’s and 60’s were many things, some good, some bad. If you think you can have the good without the bad, you’re sorely mistaken. McCarthy would have a much harder time today. The internment camps would never fly. Racist acts are today denounced by all but the most backward thinking idiots. Gays, while a long way from reaching equal rights, are at least somewhat less likely to be completely shunned by everyone close to them. Raping your spouse is actually considered rape today. Battered wives aren’t today thought of as deserving of the abuse. Hell, you’ll find that there’s only a very small group of women who would be willing to return to the “good old days.” Guess you and your fellow fellows can rule the roost alone. Abortion was illegal, but if you had the money, you could still get one. You might die, but you could get one. If you had plenty of money, you could even get one in the hospital. There were a lot of D&C operations that were supposedly due to fibroids, when in fact, “Oops, there’s a fetus here” was the final result.
It wasn’t all peachy, especially if you weren’t a straight, male, WASP.
Either you weren’t really alive back then, and thus are basing your attitude on selective reading, or you’re a straight, male, WASP.
I’ll have to get back to you later, as I have to go piss now, with a flush after that, followed by thorough washing of my hands, as I’ll be cooking next. It’s going to take a while, as we’re baking potatoes, and they’re rather large. Assuming nothing good is on TV, and that I find nothing better to do, I might come back and respond later. Or not. Either way, I’ll get back to you when I’m done doing whatever various things I have planned that no one actually gives a fuck about.
Wow. Well, all other things aside, Rick Nelson was a dreamboat and a half. Yum. And actually, I always liked his music. I cried when I heard he died.
It was mighty good of you to prove Starving Artist’s point for him so vividly.
Unlike Starving Artist’s last line, which was a polite and civil way to let others know that he intended to return to the thread, your parody of his line was vulgar, crass, had TMI and did not impart any more information. It wasn’t even the best snark vehicle.
It’s possible to have something communicated with politeness and civility that has the same substantive value as that of something communicated in a crass manner.
Some people here seem to be conflating the style and manner of the times with the underlying substantitve issues.
Now I have a question for Starving Artist based on this post in another thread:
Are you saying that the hippie culture just happened to be simultaneously happening with the civil rights movement? What were the effects of the hippie movement? Is it your contention that if that cultural event (the hippies) never happened that the same advances in policy would have taken place?
Please expand on this.
Actually, this bothers me too, the snark toward SA’s signoffs. Yeah, I know I know, says she who was downright hateful upthread. Still, there are a lot of reasons to rag on SA. I personally don’t think this is one of them. In any given thread, someone might be waiting for a reply from him. If he says he’s leaving then people will know not to expect one anytime soon. It is polite, and I commend him for it. I guess I just don’t like it when people rag on SA for his sign-offs.
I still think he’s a kook though.
Calm, collected argument that is bullshit, is still bullshit. The attitude of “because I say it, it has to be true” is just arrogance and ignorance, at least one of which this board is supposed to be fighting.
I don’t know what you people are talking about, but I need to curse at someone. Coincidentally, you, Starving Artist have a Pit thread going, and you scare the living fuck out of me. So, what I’m saying is: I hope you grow up one day, in a world you haven’t managed to destroy completely. In other words, a world in which you haven’t had a say.
Yeap. Now I shall sleep.
Wow, that was harsh. I apparently don’t like you, SA.
I can see why, though.
People who look to the past as some sort of Golden Age are misguided at best.
Just thought I’d throw my opinion out there, in the spirit of liberal permissiveness.
There’s nothing wrong with nostalgia as a hobby, but when it colors your perception of how things were, and colors your perception of who and what is to blame for all the things you hate, that’s when it gets creepy. SA has gone waaaaay past creepy with his obsession with the past.
Damn, though, the man is an excellent writer, one of the best on the Dope. Too bad it’s in service of such wildly wacky opinions. Such wasted talent.
Be grateful that you’re not familiar with ‘Garden Party’.
I actually went to a Rick Nelson concert in the early '80s (I had free tickets). There were middle-aged women in the front rows shrieking and appearing to throw, um, undergarments at him.
I’m sure Dad and Mom would have been appalled.
I did something to you, you should make me remember that? I don’t think so. I mean, I won’t say I’d never done anything to deserve that, but I’m real sure I never did any of them to you. Pretty sure, anyway.
Yeah, that song does indeed suck, but ever pay attention to the lyrics? Old Ricky is singing all about how nostalgia sucks and he doesn’t wanna go around revisiting the past. Maybe he’s not the best exemplar of SA’s point of view…
Well, you can’t please everyone…
One, I’m far more polite than Starving Artist. I only blame the Republicans for the deaths of hundreds of thousands. He blames liberals for the suffering and deaths of millions.
Two, do you really want to hold up a single poster’s actions as evidence of the behavioral traits of an entire group of people? If so, I’ll happily introduce you to LonesomePolecat, since you apparently haven’t met.
His last line was nothing of the sort. He quite frequently pulls the (paraphrasing) “I’m not going to be able to answer for a while due to such and such”, and yet is still posting away over the next so many hours. If I had to guess, his sign-offs are simply an excuse to walk away from a thread if he’s afraid he’s about to get his ass handed to him. Or maybe he just thinks that the people he just accused of being the reason behind millions of deaths might give a shit what he’s having for dinner.
Besides, it’s a fucking message board, not Twitter. Does anyone here actually think it’s necessary to respond to a post addressed to them in the next hour or so? Hell, a lot of us are rarely on here for more than a single session a day. If you are going to be gone for such an amount of time that someone might actually think you abandoned a thread, sure, go to town. People do that all of the time, and no one has ever made fun of them for it.
Oh no, not crassness! In the Pit! How could you, DMC! You must be a potty-mouthed liberal, one of those hooligans who ruined America, slinging your inefficient and crude snark vehicle!
I’m picturing Heffalump and Roo as an old schoolmarm with a bun in her hair and her glasses perched on the end of her nose, with her hands on either side of her face, delivering this scolding.
As I have pointed out before, blaming everything that has gone wrong in America for the past 50 years 100% on liberals is not polite or civil. It’s insulting, ignorant, and obnoxious. I don’t care how nicely he says it (and it’s not always nice-- he’s not above name-calling or swearing), it’s mean-spirited and alienating. There can be no debate with someone like him because his mind is totally closed, and he’s admitted as much. He has no interest in listening to other people’s points of view, only in scoring points for “his side.” Nothing DMC said in his post can touch the crassness of Starving Artist’s starting position in any debate about American politics or culture. Talking to him is a complete waste of time, period.
As for his sign-offs, he always says he’s out of a thread and then inevitably comes back. I find that both amusing and annoying.