Dio:
Be that as it may, Mr. Maher has done a piss-poor job of communicating that since I’ve been watching him on HBO (I never watched him when he was on regular network TV, but that was because of inconvenient timing).
Don’t equate anti-Bush with “liberal.”
I fucked up a couple days ago and posted this to a different thread. Not verbatim, but it’s the same idea.
Dio, I should have known this thread would take so many tangents, but I made my point and blew off my steam on this topic. Though some posts have been fun to watch. 
I’d apologize, but not only would I be lying, it would probably insult you as well. I know you understand the purpose and intent. And now, just for you, I’ll break out the sig for a rare appearence. 
Strangely enough, I never for a second took this thread especially personally or took any offense to it. I pretty much took it as given that somebody would Pit me after election night so I took it in stride. No hard feelings here and no need for you to apologize. I could apologize for calling Bush Hitler, but I wouldn’t mean it an no one would believe me anyway so I take this thread in the same spirit. You were pissed when you started it. You’re not really pissed anymore but you’re not sorry either. I totally understand it. Life goes on.
Oh…and fuck the Packers! 
I’ve got half a notion of buying 2 tix to the game in that shithole you guys call a stadium just to be there personally to see the distraught look on your face when we bitchslap you again. Man, Minnesota plays in an indoor stadium in December. Tagliabue needs a dressing down for allowing this. :mad:
Good point. Liberal is a subset of anti-Bush.
After looking at the references here, I withdraw my “most of the killing” statement. Looks like it was only “a lot of the killing”.
That’s not supported by the data. The death toll in Vietnam in 1973-1975 is put at 171,500.
That’s true of both the political ideology and the Doper.
Totally beside the point of this thread, but the Shoah claimed the lives of 11 million civilians .
Cite? I’ve never seen a figure over 6 million.
Did anyone else enter this thread with a firmly established opinion and then realize that either side might actually be correct here?
Wow…
I really am shocked…
Don’t they teach this in school anymore?
Six million Jews, five million gentiles. That makes 11 million.
It says:
I’m guessing that that has to include non-holocaust deaths (such as WWII casualties, etc.) Provide further cites if I’m wrong because this one is somewhat :dubious:.
And FWIW I went to K-12 in rural (meaning offensively underfunded) North Carolina. We didn’t study WWII. Period. I feel like the one-eyed man in the land of the blind just for knowing how to read (if guys only knew that I’m only half-joking…) I’m extremely proud of the education I’ve given myself since a very young age so :rolleyes: on your “they don’t teach this in school?”-type comments.
The Wikipedia entry puts it like this:
I haven’t seen the DtC posts that spawned this pitting, but I have to say I find little to fault in his behavior/arguments in this thread.
And farmwoman, I’m still very curious to see your answer to this question of his:
I still have yet to see ANYONE give me a good reason why 100,000 people had to die. And why the answer to the current mess there seems to be to make it 200,000.
How in the Hell would I be able to open this pitting for what he says in this thread? 
So a simple
“No, they don’t teach this in school where I’m from.” would’ve sufficed?
Yes. They did not teach that in the schools I went to.
You have no idea how old it gets to constantly hear people say things like " :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: You didn’t read Shakespeare in the literature lounge near the science lab next to the swimming pool not far from where drumline practiced?!!!"