Fucking idiot coronavirus-loving rednecks in Michigan

[Kimstu]

@E-DUB

Now, after a little sober reflection, I’m not so sure. You see, I remembered the eighties when the extreme left was burning flags. And it’s kind of the same thing. You exercise a fundamental right in a manner so outrageous that you provoke an over-reactive response, thereby enabling you to play the victim and whine about “oppression”. There were even people back then who wanted to amend the Constitution to outlaw flag burning. But by and large, we didn’t fall for it then and we shouldn’t fall for it now.

This is a whoosh, right? You’re not seriously trying to suggest that carrying a gun doesn’t pose any more serious and immediate threat to public safety than burning a flag, and so we shouldn’t regulate the former any more strictly than we regulate the latter?

My apologies if this was an obvious joke and I just failed to get it.

[E-DUB]

I’m not saying that it’s the same. I’m just saying that it’s the sametactic.

[Slash1972]

@Kimstu

This is a whoosh, right? You’re not seriously trying to suggest that carrying a gun doesn’t pose any more serious and immediate threat to public safety than burning a flag, and so we shouldn’t regulate the former any more strictly than we regulate the latter?

My apologies if this was an obvious joke and I just failed to get it.

Carrying a gun in public makes the public safer. Any gun-carrying person will tell you that.

[asahi]

@E-DUB

Well, they’re debating about the idea of banning guns from the capitol. Like most civilized people I recoiled in horror at the sight of these “Ted Nugent cosplayers” (thanks, SNL) bringing their phallic surrogates into the sacred halls of Democracy and had that moment where the old refrain of “there oughta be a law” ran through my head.

Now, after a little sober reflection, I’m not so sure. You see, I remembered the eighties when the extreme left was burning flags. And it’s kind of the same thing. You exercise a fundamental right in a manner so outrageous that you provoke an over-reactive response, thereby enabling you to play the victim and whine about “oppression”. There were even people back then who wanted to amend the Constitution to outlaw flag burning. But by and large, we didn’t fall for it then and we shouldn’t fall for it now.

The difference being burning a flag harms absolutely nobody unless you do it while filling your gas tank.

Parading around state capitol buildings isn’t just exercising the right to bear arms; it’s a political statement, but it’s not just a political statement. It’s political intimidation. There’s no other way to interpret it, and the kinds of shit you read in their facebook chats pretty much spells it out. They fantasize about violent revolution and taking out their enemies. For most, I’m sure it’s just dick waving and jacking off to war movies, but there’s always that one in X number of people who just might take these messages to heart.

They’re not just playing with fire; they’re playing with atoms. This is really toxic shit and I’m getting fed up with it.

[Miller]

@Happy_Lendervedder

My “list” is simply copying and pasting quotes and names from the news story I linked to.

[Moderating]
The names are fine, since they appeared in the article, but it appears that you added the locations for most of them yourself. This is a little close to the line on doxxing people, so I’ve gone back and edited out the locations.

No warning issued.
[/Moderating]

[Happy_Lendervedder]

@Miller

[Moderating]
The names are fine, since they appeared in the article, but it appears that you added the locations for most of them yourself. This is a little close to the line on doxxing people, so I’ve gone back and edited out the locations.

No warning issued.
[/Moderating]

1. There are, in fact, locations for some of the guys in the article I linked to. Why did you edit those out?

2. The reporter found their locations the same way I did: Facebook. How is posting information here doxxing, but it’s not when it’s posted it in the Detroit Metro Times (or Detroit Free Press, or Chicago Reader, or New York Times)? It’s publicly-available information, easily found with absolutely no effort.

3. There are other news sources on the internet besides the one I linked to that now have these fellas’ locations in full view.

4. I’m not revealing anyone’s hidden info (home address, phone number, actual identity).

[asahi]

Yeah their info’s pretty easy to find - it was already ‘doxxed’ by the article that was linked.

We’re talking about people who are pretty openly having discussions that come perilously close to the incitement of civil unrest. I don’t normally advocate doxxing and I don’t go out of my way to do it even with people I think are deserving of it.

But these conversations come on the heels of people showing up at a state capitol for the purposes of trying to intimidate people who were duly, democratically elected. It’s clear that they sympathize with and seemingly encourage such behavior.

I fail to see how they’re much different in spirit from Putin’s Night Wolves.

[kaylasdad99]

@Happy_Lendervedder

1. There are, in fact, locations for some of the guys in the article I linked to. Why did you edit those out?

2. The reporter found their locations the same way I did: Facebook. How is posting information here doxxing, but it’s not when it’s posted it in the Detroit Metro Times (or Detroit Free Press, or Chicago Reader, or New York Times)? It’s publicly-available information, easily found with absolutely no effort.

3. There are other news sources on the internet besides the one I linked to that now have these fellas’ locations in full view.

So link to one of those sources. Nobody’s going to object to that.

[Happy_Lendervedder]

Gretchen Whitmer critics post about hanging or shooting her over stay-home rules

[septimus]

I’m glad this thread provoked Moderator action and, particularly, the ATMB thread as otherwise I would have missed it altogether.

Obviously the quotes all come from bitter and hate-filled subhuman right-wingers, but this one especially caught my eye:

@Happy_Lendervedder

…
“Plain and simple she needs to eat lead and send a statement to the rest of the democrats that they are next." -James Greens
…

Explicit admission that this is all about politics. Trump is the catalyst which has turned a once-great nation into a cesspool of hatred.

Heaven help America.

[Monty]

@Slash1972

Carrying a gun in public makes the public safer. Any gun-carrying person will tell you that.

Well, unless the person carrying the gun happens to be a minority.

@asahi

The difference being burning a flag harms absolutely nobody unless you do it while filling your gas tank.

Parading around state capitol buildings isn’t just exercising the right to bear arms; it’s a political statement, but it’s not just a political statement. It’s political intimidation. There’s no other way to interpret it, and the kinds of shit you read in their facebook chats pretty much spells it out. They fantasize about violent revolution and taking out their enemies. For most, I’m sure it’s just dick waving and jacking off to war movies, but there’s always that one in X number of people who just might take these messages to heart.

They’re not just playing with fire; they’re playing with atoms. This is really toxic shit and I’m getting fed up with it.

Yep. They’ve spent years saying they need their weapons to prevent Democrats (by which they mean minorities) from doing exactly what the heck these loons are now doing. Odd that they used to support democratically elected representation but now that the damn dirty lying sack of dung in the White House has tarnished that idea, they’re all about having it their way and only their way, even, and especially, if it comes to armed rebellion.

@septimus

I’m glad this thread provoked Moderator action and, particularly, the ATMB thread as otherwise I would have missed it altogether.

Obviously the quotes all come from bitter and hate-filled subhuman right-wingers, but this one especially caught my eye:

Explicit admission that this is all about politics. Trump is the catalyst which has turned a once-great nation into a cesspool of hatred.

Heaven help America.

They’re not subhuman. They’re just disgusint examples of humans. You are correct about their motivation. Why are they bitter? Their hatred did not permit them to accept a Black man is legitimate. That’s why they freaked out over Obama becoming president. And of course Trump’s recent tweeting of Obama’s full name had no ulterior motivation behind that at all, no sirree. :rolleyes: