Fun and Games with Bipolar Disorder

This isn’t the kind of topic I’d normally raise on a message board. Or anywhere else for that matter. Not with such a degree of solemnity anyway. It reaches into personal areas I’d really prefer not to discuss. Clearly, in initiating this thread, I am taking advantage of the relative anonymity provided by our shared virtual environment.

I’ve been thinking about this thread for a couple of days. In my opinion it raises an issue which bears wider discussion, possibly, but not inevitably, in this forum. It’s here because those who hold strong and opposing opinions to my own on this matter should feel free to articulate their views unfettered by the constraints of etiquette demanded of them in other forums. You can dress this baby in the prettiest of clothes but underneath all that finery what remains is still a mental illness. It’s quite possible there’s a taboo on this still sensitive subject where it appears in conjunction with a lack of respect for it. If that’s the case I don’t have any respect for the taboo.

The condition probably arose during my teens but it was only diagnosed in the autumn of 2002. This followed years of treatment for a unipolar illness. Since then I’ve tried a shedload of different medication, the most recent of which is very effective in controlling the Mood Pendulum. I currently see a doctor every couple of months and a nurse visits every 3 or 4 weeks. I could go to see her but she likes my coffee, and indulging these seemingly unimportant yet totally understandable feminine whims is a simple courtesy which surely helps to keep this planet spinning successfully on its axis.

I use a scale from 0 to 10, where 0 is totally useless and 10 is totally unpredictable. I’m currently running at about 6, indicative of a balanced state of mind. This information is necessarily anecdotal and your mileage may vary. If my rating drops below 3 or exceeds 7 I tend to avoid posting anything. When the pendulum swings to the extremities of its arc I can be contacted either lying down in a darkened room or choreographing a carnival in Havana. Therefore, please direct any replies to No. 6 and ignore everybody else.

Concerning the linked thread, I didn’t think twice about posting either the OP or my second post. Sometimes I do look at potential contributions and consider the possibility of controversy. Very occasionally I don’t post them. Most of us have boundaries, be they narrow or wide. In my opinion the thread went OK until a couple of responses arrived bearing tidings of implied criticism. For the avoidance of doubt, I want to make it clear that the object of my posts in that thread was not to mock anyone with a bipolar disorder. The intention was to diminish its threat using humour to treat it with disdain. If it’s a choice between me and bipolar I’m going to eat the fucker before it eats me.

Incidentally, I don’t usually give any credit to administrators or moderators. I think it’s bad for them. A misplaced plaudit could easily give a few of them delusions of grandeur unparalleled in the short but illustrious history of international message boards. That said, Dex’s post was inspired. It’s just the kind of response I was hoping for. In fact, it couldn’t have worked out better if I had actually suggested it to him myself.

I’d appreciate some opinions on the use of humour to alleviate the potential menace of the bipolar condition. Responses need not be confined to the linked thread. In order to give this thread some direction, I have questions, as hereunder. In each case the audience knows I am bipolar. Bear in mind also that timing and delivery need to be good. This is not always a given.

When I refer to jokes below it’s really a misnomer as far as I’m concerned. I’m much more likely to write something which, in my opinion, contains an implied irony within a short story rather than come up with a one-liner. Sadly, I can’t think of another way to illustrate my points.
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(1) I’m in a pub drinking with a few friends. One of them is bipolar. Can I make a bipolar joke.

My answer: Yes, totally. As long as it’s funny. A bad joke annoys everybody.

(2) I’m in a pub drinking with friends, none of whom is bipolar. Can I make a bipolar joke.

My answer: Yes, as long as the butt of the humour is either me or the problem itself.

(3) I’m giving a talk to 100 people, bipolar and others. Can I make a bipolar joke.

My answer: Yes, absolutely. Again, it needs to be a good one.

(4) I’m giving a talk to 100 people, none of whom are bipolar. Can I make a bipolar joke. My answer: I’d try one and one only. If it bombed I’d take heed of the bad reaction. If it hit the spot I’d quit while I was ahead.

(5) I’m a poster on a message board. Can I post a bipolar joke.

My answer: Yes, I can. However, I need to provide sufficient clues to unequivocally demonstrate either self-mockery or contempt for the problem (or both) rather than risk the ire of those who have it. In the linked thread the question must be whether or not I succeeded in so doing.

It should be understood that my answers differ if I myself am not bipolar. They read respectively (call them questions 6-10 if you like) Yes, No, Only If I’m A Doctor, No, No. There are circumstances in which I personally might be unconcerned by the source of such humour (it sometimes depends on context) and my answers are given with an optimistically wider appreciation of bipolar sensitivities. Please feel at liberty to point out other circumstances I may have carelessly omitted.
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To cover all the bases here, please note this OP invites neither sympathy or concern. To be candid, neither sentiment is welcome. The OP attempts to discuss humour as it relates to bipolar disorders. It doesn’t concern itself with my own situation specifically, notwithstanding the background given above. I’m willing to answer most questions which may arise from the OP, but there are places I would prefer not to visit, the Cuban capital being high on the list of undesirable destinations.

Furthermore I am not asking for medical advice. My current regime suits me fine. This comprises 100 mg Lamotrigine per day, 60 mg Duloxetine per day, and 3 or 4 pints of Hook Norton best bitter at least twice per week at the pub. And the occasional glass of cognac. Or two.

It would be useful if bipolar responders could identify themselves accordingly. This is obviously desirable rather than compulsory. Similarly, if a responder is professionally or personally acquainted with the condition (a carer perhaps) I would be interested in knowing that fact.

Anyone who has read this far must be blessed with both stamina and enviable powers of concentration. Such assiduity is to be applauded.

Many thanks.

Could you applaud a little louder please? I can’t hear you.

As to your subject, I had to read it twice to figure out that you apparently want opinions on whether it’s OK to joke about your disorder. Just sayin’, here, a little concision wouldn’t go amiss next time. Meanwhile, IMO, sure, joke away if you are making fun of yourself and you really feel you need to, but be kind to others if they happen to let slip the nature of their condition.

Chez, are you sure you really want this thread in the Pit?

Sure, humor is a great coping mechanism.

Know any good PTSD jokes?

Yes, actually. Or at least a good line in a Frasier episode. Roz, the somewhat promiscuous producer of Frasier’s radio show, talked about Chopper Dave, the station’s traffic reporter, who apparently thought it was funny to buzz the homes of his coworkers.

Roz: I didn’t mind it, but the guy I was with was a Vietnam vet and started having flashbacks.

Anyway, sure, it’s okay to joke about a mental illness, whether you have it or not. It’s okay to joke about anything. It’s just not necessarily funny and the key is to recognize when you’re not being funny and then stop subjecting the people around you to repeated unfunny-ness. Tell the damn joke and see what happens. Just don’t insist on telling it over and over if you get a negative or indifferent response.

Should someone diagnosed with bipolar disorder (or any clinical depression) be out drinking? Sounds counterintuitive.

OK, but what if I’m in a pub, drinking with a few friends and one of them is bipolar? Can I make a bipolar joke?

You can in moderation and it really depends on your meds, if you’re on any. Some have can have a “sedative” side effect that gets greatly enhanced by alcohol and I think others are rough on your liver so drinking is not recommeded at all.

My sister’s ex is bipolar and would come out clubbing back in our 20s and was always fine. She would partake in the merriment of alcohol, but I’ve never seen her drink to the point of intoxication.

In any event, what is a bipolar joke, anyhow? Is it, like, a joke with two punchlines, one funny and one depressing?

OK, sorry, I’ll slither away now.

slithers away

At first I thought this thread was funny but then I changed my mind.
Seriously though, the only joke I know that’s anyway related is the “pyschiatric hotline” gag (f you have multiple personalities, please press 3, 4, 5, and 6., etc etc).

Reminds me of Principal Skinner from the Simpsons. I’ve always wondered how vets feel about him… whether they find it insulting or something they can laugh at. He’s had some pretty grisly flashbacks, but having PTSD is such a ludicrous experience at times, maybe it helps to see that at base it really is just a silly juxtaposition between what happened in the past and the mundane way things are now. It’s hard when you’re going through it to find it funny, but when you really sit down and think about the ironic contrast between reality and what you perceived to be reality, I see the potential for humor.

I think a person’s sensitivity to an issue varies depending on that person. It’s very common to make jokes about painful experiences people have gone through–I used to get quite bent out of shape when comedians made light of experiences I felt had a very negative impact on my life. Eventually I got over it. I still only find maybe 1 out of 10 of these jokes funny, but I think about all the times I’ve laughed uproariously at something someone else might have found offensive. Generally I think it’s a good thing to be able to hear someone make fun of something terrible that happened to you without having to run away and hyperventilate. I think I read somewhere once about the importance of having a sense of humor and its relationship to human resilience.

Please do not confuse bipolar disorder with multiple personality disorder. That is all.

Understood.

Well, what would the bi-polar hotline number be then? Press 3 and 4 at the same time? I got nothin’

Jokes are great! If it wasn’t for humor and being able to make fun of the crap my brain does to me I wouldn’t make it.

I have more disorders than you could shake an acronym stick at and I absolutely LOVE cracking wise about my problems. For example, just today I got a T-shirt in the mail that says “Some days just aren’t worth chewing through the restraints.” and later I’m expecting a bumper sticker that reads; “I didn’t escape. They gave me a day pass.” :slight_smile: Also, there’s lots more goodies than that, but hopefully that’ll explain my take on why humor is one of the best remedies towards dealing with this shit.

And El_Kabong, that definitely got a snerk out of all of us who reside here inside ol’ faith. So we’ll just leave it at that. :wink:

Personally I find my bipolar disorder hilarious. Half the time anyway.

Bipolar joke: from the Wiki page on The Prehistory of the Far Side:

How aboutthis?

Well, Chez Guevara does in the linked thread. And I guess he’d know. When does a mood swing cross the line and become a different personality? Perhaps when it’s tied to the chicken.

No, it’s one of those jokes where people have to choose between getting the good news first or the bad news first…

joins El_Kabong in a dark, dark, hidden corner