Game of Thrones 5.01 "The Wars to Come" 4/12/15 [Show discussion]

I thought they were just showing their displeasure at being locked away. She needs some lessons on how to train her dragons…

Robin’s weakness seemed less realistic to me because he is a young boy in a castle with lots of stairs. Was he locked in his room for twenty hours a day, or just lactose intolerant?

Usual setting up the pieces season premiere, but I love slipping back into Westeros like a pair of comfy slippers.

Almost expected Jaime and Cersei to go for another round of deathbed sex… thankfully we were spared that.

Excellent acting all around, but especially Tyrion, Mance, Brienne, Jaime, Margaery, Grey Worm. Glad to see a flashback finally. Maybe we’ll get some filling in on the mysteries that went to certain characters’ graves…

The crowns of gold can also be a reference to the Lannister blond hair which set the whole Jon Arryn/Ned Stark investigation into motion. Prophecies always mean something else, and seemingly good predictions have a way of biting you in the ass.

She think it’s Margaery, of course, but there other candidates. Daenerys? Or better yet…Myrcella?

I’ve edited some posts to include a few spoilers.

I just didn’t think that Mance was going to burn. I was hoping for something to happen and all I got was Jon’s mercy arrow.
I loved the character and the actor. Ciarán Hinds will always be Julius Caesar/Mance.

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If only there was, I dunno, a movie she could watch or something.

I found that jarring, like all of a sudden a scene was saddled with basic cable standards and practices. The sudden modesty is also firmly out of character; there was a scene last season where Danny reminds us that she feels no shame about nudity at all. (When talking with her handmaiden about Grey Worm ogling her boobies at the river.)

When danger reared its ugly head
He bravely turned his tail and fled.
Brave, brave, brave, brave Ser Robin…

Is this the first we have seen them?

Is that painted eyes on stone thing part of any real culture?

Somehow I don’t think Stannis is the kind of guy you want to try rules-lawyering.

I’m also interested in the discussion about explicit heterosexual sex being for titillation but explicit homosexuality is just for shock value. How is that different exactly?

If you were gonna nitpick, you should also have corrected Lora’s to Loras’s.

I can’t recall. Have we had flashbacks like this before?

  1. Yes.
  2. Not that I know of. Placing coins on the eyes of the dead is not uncommon.
  3. True dat.
  4. It isn’t to me.
  5. I missed it - sorry!
  6. Not that I recall, either.

My point is they didn’t even direct the flames towards her. They were doing up in the air and nowhere near her, it looked like.

I don’t know about that - Stannis seems to be all about rules. I would think he’d find the loophole finding irritating, but he’d allow it.

Also Jorah Mormont. Last seen riding away from Mereen after being banished.

Somehow, Mance’s death really surprised me. I’d rewatched the last few episodes of S4 in anticipation, and so many important characters died all in a row that I actually thought “well hey, it’s only ep 1 so at least we know no one will die this time.”
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Poor Jon. He’s still grieving Ygritte and Pip and Grenn, and probably kind of heart sick at how many of the free folks died too, but there he is the next day in the training yard working his butt off…and then blammo. Stannis orders him to go convince Mance of a deal Jon knows Mance will refuse, so Jon’s going to feel even more of the burden of responsibility for not being able to prevent more death.

Remember how impressed Tyrion and Bronn were with squire Podrick’s apparent prowess in bed? And there’s Pod with Brienne, all despondent and forlorn. I wonder what might make her feel better?

Yep. He’d be really sulky mad about it and probably throw a barb at Davos or Jon but he’d accept it. He didn’t even seem mad at the arrow. He turned kind of slowly and his look was more “Hmmm. Who did that?” than “who has robbed the true god of his sacraficcceeee!”

I don’t agree. If what Job did was truly a crime in Stannis’s eyes, then nitpicking would get you only the coldest comfort.

Stannis would grant some kind of acknowledgement of possibly mitigating circumstances, but—unless he really wanted to let you off—would still come up with a harsh punishment. Like—“Okay, you get to keep your head, but I’ll have your arms chopped off because they wielded the bow.”

I suspect what’s really at issue is that Stannis—unlike Melisandre and Selyse—isn’t too crazy about burning and did plenty satisfied that the execution went through however it was accomplished.

Yep, it took me out of the scene because it didn’t fit her character–or the show, at all.

Well get used to it because she ain’t showing the goodies any longer.

Loras’ would be the preferred form. :smiley: