Mel couldn’t handle a campfire out of control, how is she going to stop a nuclear wildfire explosion?
That would be odd, especially given everything else that was happening. It was to show how close they were.
My first thought on seeing it was awww. My next thought was there must be an incredible amount of Dany/Missandei femslash. If I know the internet…
Beats me. We have very little idea of her strengths and weaknesses. But she can do magic, and she clearly has a connection with fire.
I didn’t bother following the exposition about greyscale but I notice it’s not developing on Jora, which I assume is the reason he keeps looking at it.
What does it mean if it’s not developing?
And, fwiw, I’m really not into this passing the infection idea.
Stannis went to the wall at Davos’ urging. Whether Stannis knew about the raven from Castle Black, I can’t recall but Melisandre was already aware of the White Walkers.
It was Davos telling Stannis to “save the realm and be king” instead of “be king and save the realm”. Stannis doesn’t give a crap about the people of the realm just the law saying he should be king. Melisandre simply changed tactics in manipulating Stannis when she saw a better option.
[My speculations]
Stannis wants to save the world because he thinks it will put him on the throne. He’s using the law and the White Walkers to further his ambitions. Ambitions, I think he only hid because there was no prior way for him to act on them without looking like the nobles he despises.
I think Dale Sams is referring to how Melisandre was clearly awake and aware of the fires Ramsey caused, but she didn’t or couldn’t stop them. All we know is that she didn’t. She may not have done anything because she doesn’t have the ability, or because she actively chose not to. It wouldn’t surprise me if she decided to just sit back and let the fires happen to push Stannis towards sacrificing Shireen.
AFAICT, it is spreading. It started as a small patch and is slowly getting larger. Still, I seriously doubt that Jorah passed it onto Danaerys, because that would be stupidly out of character for him. Then again, I also expected him to stay far, far away from Mereen to avoid infecting her or her people, and I was wrong about that. I still think the transmission angle is a dead end, supported by Rigamarole’s observations upthread.
If Stannis’ ambitions were ONLY about being king, it would have been a LOT smarter for him to go straight to King’s Landing or Winterfell. A LOT smarter. Not buying it, in short.
Regarding the greyscale… It comes out of Valeria, the ancient home of dragons and the Targaryans. As a longshot, maybe greyscale is only fatal to normal people, and in someone like Daeneris it has a completely different effect? Maybe it will make her more powerful or something.
That is just wild speculation. I don’t think Ser Jorah infected her. I suspect you probably have to touch the actual infected area to get it,
That’s a fascinating point. It could very well be that the Lord of Light is the only hope against the white walkers, at least if your hope involves turning to deities. The Lord of Light clearly has power, or at least Melisandre does and attributes it to a god that doesn’t exist.
There have been multiple references to Hell on the show, but other than that it’s really vague what the Faith (or anyone else’s) idea of an afterlife is. We know The Stranger is the aspect of the Godhead in charge of death, & the Silent Sisters are connected to him (as well as being in charge of dealing with corpses). Funerals among the nobility are really elaborate; the body is embalmed & displayed, various internal organs are removed & put in their own urns, the eyes are covered with stones pained to look like eyes, & at least in the North life sized statues are placed over the crypts (or the remains are somehow entombed inside the statues, I’m not sure).
At which point? He never had enough manpower to take any region. The lesser lords only came to him when they had no viable options.
The White Walkers are at the Wall. Does he intend to march north again? In the heart of winter? Or sacrifice the Night’s Watch and face the WWs when they are at Winterfell?
The Boltons are not going to roll over, storming Winterfell will cost him numbers. Fighters that would be better used against the WWs.
That is, of course, contingent on my not missing an important conversation somewhere. 
Stannis can’t defeat the white walkers. It’ll take the entire kingdom’s resources and manpower to even have a hope of doing that. Either the warring parties need to have a truce(something which John Snow might have to impose or cajole out of them somehow), or someone is going to have to swoop in, take over, and force everyone onto the same page. Right now there are only two people who can do that: Dany Targaryan and Stannis Baratheon. And neither have the manpower to do THAT as yet either. So I’m really wondering if Bran is supposed to just save the day somehow.
But you’re missing the point. If Stannis sole desire was to become king at any cost, he never would have gone to the wall in the first place, and never would have risked his army to fight Mance Rayder. I’m not sure what he WOULD have done, and I’m not saying that he’s acting like a saint or a wise enlightened leader… but the charge that he’s purely ambitiously power-hungry just doesn’t stick. (There are characters who are clearly power-hungry… Littlefinger, for instance.)
I don’t think he’s just power hungry either, but he did go to the wall to try to convince John Snow and the Watch to fight for him, and the wildlings to boot. He made a move to end the Nights Watch’s political neutrality, which was a pretty bold move for someone as much a stickler for law and tradition as Stannis is.
I don’t understand this at all. Are you saying you’d believe literally anything told to you by someone who performed magic? If someone raised the dead in front of me, I’d definitely be amazed, but that wouldn’t mean I’d blindly believe anything the dead-raiser told me. Why would I? I mean, I’ve had people in real life perform impressive physical tasks (albeit non-magical ones) and they told me they were able to do them because of their balance bracelet. The fact that someone can do X doesn’t mean they truly understand why and how they can do X. I don’t see how magic is any different.
What’s-his-name brought ol’ one-eye with the flaming sword back from the dead after he lost a trial by combat with the Hound. (I’m not so good at names sometimes.)
He said he had done it multiple times (six? seven?) and a shocked Melissandra expressed disbelief that such a thing was even possible. It was one of the few times we’ve seen the Red Witch surprised.
Who was the guy that Arya recognized and that almost recognized her?
Meryn Trant (No spoilers on that page unless you read the “In the books” section at the bottom of the page.)
Thoros of Myr
Dude, have you not been following the news for the last ten years? Blackwater is notorious for having remorselessly shot and murdered innocent civilians, including children. The massacres led to a serious diplomatic incident, protracted international news coverage, criminal prosecutions and convictions, and widespread condemnation by pretty much every journalist and commentator in existence. But they didn’t lead to any mass resignations on the part of Blackwater employees, who seemed happy to keep collecting their paycheques.
I can respect the theory that the show’s writers want us to believe that the loyalty of Stannis’s soldiers has been shaken, though you’ve chosen a particularly poor real-world example to invoke in support of it.
You think so? If I get time I might look back and compare total squareage.