She obviously thought she had a better chance of throwing herself on Ramsay’s mercy rather than trying to outrun the hounds. That’s because she barely knew Ramsay.
I have no idea anymore what is the point of Bran’s story arc, like why is he in that cave, what is the end goal or who/what all those weirdos are.
I guess I didn’t catch what they expected the two dragons to do now that they are free. Are they going to find Daenerys? Are they going to terrorize the two cities that have fallen back under slaver control? Are they just going to control the sheep population?
I think it might’ve been cooler if Ramsay had stabbed Roose, but it didn’t penetrate Roose’s chainmail, which he wore because he was savvy enough to anticipate the attempt. Then there’s a struggle, and Roose actually gets the better of Ramsay… at which point the new Lord Karstark kills Roose to seal their The Dicks In The North alliance. It would’ve been more dramatic, made Roose seem more competant, added a sad note that the father, even after legitimizing his son, was always that wary of them, and then made a much more dramatic reveal of the Ramsay/Karstark alliance. Would’ve only taken an extra 40 seconds of screen time but would’ve given the scene much more impact I think. It was pretty perfunctory as it was.
We know from before that he can see through the eyes of, and even control, animals and people. Now they’re showing us that not only can he see the present, but his new mentor is teaching him how to see the past. We don’t know what the end goal is, but obviously these are powerful weapons…
Why is he there? Because the “three-eyed raven” has been leading him there in dreams and visions. That “raven” was actually the powerful warg-mentor, who could sense/find Bran’s power. We don’t know who he is or what his agenda is yet, but the point of the story arc is to find out…
If the entire point of Bran’s arc is to show us cool scenes from the past then that will be absolutely fine with me. It probably won’t be though.
I think Tyrion’s immediate objective was to keep them healthy, since he heard that they weren’t eating. He knows that Daenerys needs the dragons for her own emotional wellbeing, and also because they solidify her authority as a ruler and a Targaryen. It’s also a narrative sign that Daenerys is once again about to roll up her sleeves and start making lemonade from all the lemons she’s been getting handed since Season 4.
Now I really, really want to see Tyrion riding one of those dragons around, barbecuing Sons of the Harpy.
Thanks, that helps. I had forgotten about the prophecy aspect of the three-eyed raven.
I don’t think the High Sparrow is leaving the Sept of Baelor much at this point. While the King evidently has the power to appoint the High Septon, it’s possible that this could be rejected by the Sparrows. The Lannisters’ hold on the city is extremely tenuous at this point. As the High Sparrow points out, the Sparrows have strength in numbers and also due to their fanaticism, because they don’t care about dying. On top of that, it’s clear that the common people of the city hate the Lannisters and support the Sparrows. Any attempt to assassinate the Sparrow would provoke riots that would make storming the Bastille look like a picnic.
Rickard Karstark had three sons. Harrion, the eldest, was killed early in the War. Torrhen was killed by Jaime Lannister during his escape. Rickard killed the Lannister hostages (including Tommen;)) in response to his death. Harald is his surviving son.
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The Children of the Forest are the only ones who really know anything about the White Walkers, so we’ll likely see all of this knowledge that Bran’s sucking up be useful in the future. And to get into crazy fan theories (not mine, spoiler tags in case this ends up being accurate):
There’s a battle brewing between two magical forces, maybe a lyrical battle, oh hell, we’ll just call it A Song of Ice (White Walkers) and Fire (Dragons). R+L=J suggests that, since he has both hot and cold blood in his veins, Jon Snow will be pivotal in resolving this battle, orchestrating some sort of peace or annihilating both forces or something. But both he and the audience will need someone there to explain WTF is happening, and that’s where Bran would come in. Awfully convenient to have a warg brother who’s been hanging out with some magical tree elves in that case.
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It took every ounce of Tyrion’s courage for him to unchain the dragons. So who actually put the irons on the beasts to begin with? Did they live to tell about it?
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Does anybody else think that Tenniel’s Jabberwocky
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Drogon, I think, is referred to as “he.” Do we know the genders of the other two? If one is a female, does Dany have a breeding program in mind?
I like that idea as well, but I still think it works as-is. True, I also expected Roose to be more savvy than that, but he clearly thought that he could control Ramsey. There’s plenty of existing story to support that. Roose thought he could keep Ramsey in line by threatening to make his new son the heir instead. If he had thought that Ramsey would ever consider betraying him, he wouldn’t have constantly brought up Ramsey’s tenuous position as heir all the time. Nearly every major character in GoT has serious blindspots when it comes to trusting or controlling people, this was Roose’s.
Daenerys did. She led them into the basement thing and tossed some meat for them to munch on. While they ate, she clapped the irons around their necks. They didn’t seem to care until she started to leave the area and they found that they were restrained and couldn’t follow her.
Life…finds a way.
I was overall fairly disappointed by this episode. It felt like the GoT acting and production values devoted to a lesser, much more predictable show. I love Senor Beef’s suggestion for how the Roose/Ramsay scene could have gone instead:
And I think one could make similar suggestions to a number of other scenes in this episode… Tyrion and the dragons, Arya passing a test with Jaqen, even Jon Snow’s resurrection.
There were only a few scenes I really loved: Bran’s flashback, and the brief scene with the bragging guy talking about flashing Cersei and then meeting the ZombieMountain.
Thank you, oft wears hats. I seemed to have missed that scene.
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Okay, I absolutely could not help saying the following lines, at the appropriate points:
“I’ve seen woise!”
“He’s only mostly dead. Now, mostly dead is a little bit alive.”
It doesn’t help that when Melisandre takes off the necklace she turns into Valerie. It’ll be interesting to see if Ian McShane’s character is a king’s former maester with Yiddish accent and if they get together.
Daenarys. They showed this in the Previously On recap at the beginning of the episode.
Thanks, Eyebrows.
Remember way back when Theon was on a ship to bring Balon over to Robb’s cause? He seduced the captain’s daughter and as he left he said something like “you’re probably pregnant with a king’s bastard now.” I’m kind of hoping she was pregnant and he is reunited with them. But I’m a sap sometimes.
Theon is one of the few characters who has deserved every bad turn he’s gotten. But, I’d be willing to let him go with time and body parts served at this point.