Game of Thrones, A Golden Crown, 5/22/11

That’s easily the third or fourth time we’ve seen something involving her being heat-proof. This one was just the most blatant.

-Joe

Is it? I don’t remember the others.

There was at least another one when Dany’s maid (at Illyrio’s) tells her that the water is far too hot for a bath and she isn’t a bit perturbed by it.

You’re completely missing the point and at this point I can only assume you’re being deliberately obtuse. My entire point is that you don’t need to invent a “OMG! The Baretheons have magic hair that’s passed down from father to son!” when genetics (or breeding, if that makes it easier) completely explains it.

When Ser Vardis had a sword jammed into his torso, what killed him? Was it the four feet of metal wrecking his internal organs because that’s how human bodies work, or was it because the Vardis family’s allergy to steel?

Likewise, even though there is obviously magic stuff going on (ie. walking dead), the fact that ravens can fly is probably due to aerodynamics. Yes, it COULD be because of invisible antigravity goblins riding on their backs. It really, really could. But why the fuck would an author or screenwriter make it so when actual real-world birds fly with actual real-world physics? What would be the point?

-Joe

Yeah the very first episode she goes into a scalding hot tub of water, i can forgive people for being distracted though. I don’t remember any others.

I assure you that neither is the case. I’m making the point that examination of genetic probabilities is not going to offer you an understanding of what is happening in the story with regard to hair color, because it has not been written with genetic probabilities in mind.

All we know is that “the blood runs strong,” a statement that has absolutely no correlation to what we know about genetics and has everything to do with pre-scientific mystical ideas.

Is it my turn to start throwing around accusations of obtuseness? Obviously, I wasn’t marveling at the phenomenon of flying birds being able to fly. It is a reference to the fact that in the real world, ravens (as opposed to pigeons) haven’t been trained to deliver messages, and so far as I know, they can’t be.

Right you are + neither do I.
Just to play it save..


Her resistance to heat is unexpected but a tv series doesn’t need to follow its source slavishly.

I might be wrong about this but I believe homing pigeons instinctively fly home, thus delivering messages if attached to the bird. (For any entrepreneurs out there, pizzas are too cumbersome and heavy to carry, I have already tried this, and coconuts too heavy, unless they are African or European coconuts).
Ravens are an intelligent bird, are capable of being trained like parrots can. Whether they can be trained to fly to a certain location, though, do not know.

The genetics discussion is getting quite silly.

It’s not that they can’t, we just won’t, because ravens would totally read the messages and sell any valuable information to the highest bidder. And they love to correct your spelling and rub it in.

Does this mean that what killed Viserys would not have killed her? Because that would be a neat trick. Also, I think I’d rather be dead, frankly.

Oh right. I was a *bit *distracted I suppose.

Uh, that’s not something that can be answered here.

You think Dany is hot? You have no idea.

Holy shit, really? Where’s the quote from Martin on that? You seem to know, after all, what his intentions were when he wrote it.

-Joe

Now you’re just being needlessly hostile.

I’m glad you’re calming down :). It seems to me that you’re an expert in this style of swordfighting, which counterintuitively makes you a terrible audience for this style of swordfighting. The casting directors could have cast people who were expert swordfighters and secondarily actors, or they could have cast people who were expert actors and secondarily swordfighters. I’m very glad they went with the latter approach. For nearly all viewers, the swordfighting on screen is adequate, since we don’t know any better; we would, however, be pretty good at spotting mediocre acting. AFAIAC, xtisme’s explanation about the difference between mounted combat and foot combat is more than adequate to explain any clumsiness in the fight. And Lyssa and her son seem to have zero tactical expertise, but rather are trying to stage a pretty death for Tyrion; Tyrion deftly maneuvered her into failure in this respect.

Her brother loudly and often declared himself to be the last dragon. From Dany’s finale line in this episode, and from knowing what happened earlier with the egg, she seems to disagree.

That was just a comment on the silly genetics argument. I figured we could move on to another silly argument.

By the way, what was it that Dany said? “That would not have killed a real dragon.” or something like that.

I assume that was why she insisted on witnessing her brother’s crowning; to prove to herself that he was not a dragon (unlike her). BTW, have we been given the backstory on the guy who’s been advising her, and who received a pardon-by-post this week?