That’s silly… what effect did this supposed poison have on him? Make him crazy and a hypocrite and hook up with Shae? It certainly didn’t kill him- Tyrion took care of that with the crossbow.
The whole decomposing Tywin in the Great Sept part is pretty much a historical shout-out/throwback to William the Conqueror’s funeral, not proof that Oberyn Martell poisoned him.
Fans of Jaime might wanna see this:
He was already dead.
Stupid question, not even a spoiler but not worth it’s own thread:
First thing that nagged me when I started the series was Stark & Lannister/York & Lancaster. Is there meant to be a (sub)conscious connection there as adversaries? Or am I (as usual) overthinking things?
Wait.
What?
What?!
He talks to Tyrion before Tyrion shoots him. Sure didn’t seem dead to me.
The whole series started as a fictional War of the Roses.
I can’t recall if it was similar in the books, but I’m impressed at how the show has made The Mountain into this scary bogeyman even though we barely see him. By my count, we haven’t seen him in the last 7 episodes, and only a few times overall, but everyone knows where he is and what he’s up to. I’ve even forgotten what the new actor looks like. The joust scene cemented the original in my head. But every time they mention him, it’s still scary.
In the books it was Varys who warned the Lannisters about the Tyrell plot to marry Sansa wasn’t it?
And what is going on with Theon? My husband, who has read all the books released so far, had to have it explained to him by me.
“Why’d he let Theon go? There’s worse things that are supposed to happen to him!”
“He didn’t let him go. That’s Ramsey.”
“Why’d he kill his own men?”
“Cuz he’s a crazy fucker?”
“This doesn’t make any sense.”
The thing is, the last I read about Theon, he was dead as far as I was concerned, so I’m glad this portion was spoiled for me because I’d be just as confused as my husband if it hadn’t.
What’s going on with Theon is that they have about three books worth of torture to make up out of whole cloth. They are doing a horrible job with that storyline starting with last seasons finale.
Maybe they could pair up his torture scenes with The Revels tune, Comanche.
I don’t really want to watch everything that happens to Theon before he rejoins the action in book five. That is just going to get nauseating after a while.
Ramsay also learned the real reason why Theon took Winterfell (what they were asking him when torturing him), to whom he was truly loyal and probably gained an insight into his psychology. The series’ Ramsay might be portrayed as more subtle than he is in the books, though no less of a sadist.
Way back in Season 1, didn’t Arya see Jorah and Varys conspiring together? Right after Daenerys found out she was pregnant and Jorah said “save my seat for a sec; I gotta go pee.” And right before Varys told Robert and Robert ordered the attempted poisoning of Daenerys?
'Twas Varys and Illyrio Arya saw. Jorah was simply writing letters.
Anyone else think Tyrions reluctance to bone Sansa is gonna seem weird on the show since she is older than the books and very obviously not a “child”?
Not really. I never felt like Tyrion’s reluctance was solely because she was a child - he did jump in bed with her on their wedding night, didn’t he? Rather, it was because she was obviously so repulsed by him, and so scared and unhappy in general.
When it comes right down to it, Tyrion’s a good guy, and good guys don’t push sex on women who don’t want to have sex with them, even if they happen to be married to them.
When did Jorah betray Dany? In S2 the mask-wearing woman in Qarth says something to Jorah about a “first” betrayal. Was it in S1? Was he the one who alerted Robert that Dany was married and pregnant and gathering a Dothraki army?
I’m remembering Dany dismissing Jorah at some point in the books, but I don’t remember why she did it.
Jorah was feeding information on the Targaryens to the small council. At one point in the first season he gets a full pardon an permission to return for telling them she was pregnant, but then decides to stop the assassin instead. Barristan Selmy was part of the small council at that point and knows this.