Game of Thrones S3 - open spoilers

And its Barristan Selmy who was Kingsguard at the time, who tells Dany that Jorah was feeding info to Robert’s council - when he gets unmasked as Selmy (rather than Arstan Whitebeard).

GRRM described Tyrion’s throbbing erection. His reluctance didn’t have anything to do with her being a child.

Plus, Sophie Turner is 17 I think. Peter Dinklage is like 42. That’s enough of a difference to give me the creeps anyway.

I’m re-reading Storm of Swords and I just finished the part. It happened around pg. 790 on the paperback version. It’s when they are camped outside of Mereen and Mero of Braavos attempts to assassinate Dany before whitebeard comes to her rescue. Back at camp Jorah is suspicious of how a squire can defeat Mero with a staff which is when he reveals himself as Selmy.

It’s also at that time that he reveals Jorah has been feeding information to the small council about her movements all along, and she dismisses them both. I believe after that they are sent into the sewers of Mereen.

Edit: Ninja’ed! Oh well.

It was actually Littlefinger. Remember in the books Sansa confides in Ser Dontos about the Tyrell plan. He is Littlefinger’s spy, so of course he told Littlefinger and Littlefinger told Tywin.

When I think of it, in the show, Shae gives Tyrion hell simply for mentionning that Sansa is pretty. When she’ll learn that he’s going to marry her…

… She might turn state’s evidence!

I liked it just for the “o shit u bitch speak valyrian? we fucked” moment.

I suppose that might make Shae’s betrayal plausible on the show - that she would be genuinely hurt by Tyrion’s marriage. In the book she was obviously a floozy but she’s a much more decent person on the show, and I’ve been curious as to how they would make her betrayal seem in character.

Don’t forget ‘fearsomely strong cider’, mentioned at least 4 times in the first chapter alone, IIRC. :dubious: I almost didn’t continue reading, because it really felt like he’d written scenes with the intention of coming back and getting more creative with what must have been placeholder phrases; it was just that awful.

Yeah, motherfucker needs an editor.

I’d meant to edit, but missed the window, but yeah…Dance with Dragons really seemed like it wasn’t ever edited. At all. I was quite surprised.

Editing Martin would be a thankless job: I cut out half the incest, 25% of the descriptions of armor, 30% of the descriptions of food, and all the boring parts, your book is now a magazine insert.

I remember his editor saying that there was originally more content in Dance with Dragons, but she convinced George to transfer some major events to Winds of Winter because there was already too much happening in Dance. The siege of Winterfell and the Battle of Slavers Bay were originally supposed to be resolved in Dance.

Maybe the editor is actually part of the problem. Admittedly it could be that Martin just didn’t have those things finished, and including them would have delayed the book by another year.

The interview is here

The whole problem with Feast and Dance is that very little awesome shit happens, it’s all just set-up for future events, and she thought it would be for the best to remove the parts where shit actually happens?

Worst editor ever.

Plus, his books need a line-by-line editor – even if only for the annoying repeated phrases.

Was that sorcerer-in-a-box sequence new material? I don’t recall it from the books.

Definitely not in the books. They just made it up for the series.

The story was in the books though.

So far as I recall, though, Varys never saw the sorcerer again.

I think all this stuff is great. But I wish he would find a place to stop introducing new characters. Like I don’t think we really needed the Young Griff and Dornish Prince plots. And th number of slave cities in Daenerys’s story could have been significantly reduced.