I dunno, “make it good or I’ll kill you” seems like it’d get something pretty good out of a person that lies for a living.
Okay. I’m glad I didn’t miss any obvious subterfuge, then.
Yes, I expected that too.
You’re probably right. Especially since they probably won’t want Tyrion to look bad. He’s too popular and too much of a “good guy” for them to let him murder Shae brutally. Too bad, but maybe it does make more sense than in the book, as a previous poster pointed out.
Why have Tyrion give Shae the gold chain if not to use it?
Good point.
Yeah, I forgot about that part, and I may have just imagined the involvement of the other maid.
With the way things are going I think the only way Shae might flip on Tyrion is if she thought she was protecting Sansa or Tyrion himself in some convoluted way (“Say what we want and we’ll let him take the Black, otherwise his head gets chopped off.”)
Either way I can’t see Tyrion killing her, although I wouldn’t be too surprised if she ended up dying at the hands of Tywin.
There’s no evidence that Shae was coerced into giving false testimony against Tyrion. In AFFC Cersei remembers promising Shae some sort of financial reward for betraying Tyrion, but Cersei refused to make good on her promise after the trial.
I’ll be pretty pissed if Tyrion doesn’t kill Shae on the show. That’s one of his most important scenes in the book, and I can’t think of any change the show has made that would be as drastic of a departure from the plot line of the books as changing the circumstances of Shae’s death would be.
Book Shae never really loved Tyrion, she was just telling him what he wanted to hear. They could do the same with TV Shae, and honestly her betrayal would seem that much worse since she’s been more convincing in pretending to love Tyrion.
If Shae doesn’t betray Tyrion it takes away everything that was complex, interesting, deep, and realistic about Tryion and Shae’s relationship from the books and turns it into a cliche hooker with a heart of gold story.
Cersei’s story bothered me, they were the Reynes of Castamere if they built their own castle they wouldn’t be from Castamere anymore.
Castamere is the name of the castle.
Because before the Reynes owned it belonged to house Castamere, the same way Casterly rock belonged to the Casterlys. It makes no sense to build the second greatest castle in the world and name it after an extinct house.
I think the implication is that they built the new castle at the same location as the old castle.
I just reread the books. The other maid was dismissed and was working as a laundress when she was interviewed by Brienne who was trying to find Sansa.
My question, and it’s about something that won’t happen until the end of next season, I assume, is: who is responsible for killing Joffrey? Book Joffrey dies because Lady Olenna wants to keep her beloved granddaughter from marrying a monster; the marriage was arranged by Margaery’s father. Littlefinger is pulling the strings, but one string is Lady Olenna’s concern for Margaery. Show Margaery is very much in favor of becoming queen, and while she might be appalled by Joffrey as a person, she’s not going to let that put her off her own ambition. If they keep to the events of the books, what is Joffrey going to do or threaten to do to Margaery to make Olenna act against him?
(Triple-checking that I’m submitting this post to the right thread!)
Getting rid of Joffrey in no way prevents Margaery from becoming Queen, she just becomes a Queen married to a much more malleable and less evil King. I don’t see why show Margaery would have a problem with that, they probably started planning it the moment their lunch with Sansa was over.
I keep reading “worst wedding ever” regarding last night with Tyrion and Sansa and in my head I’m all “You know nothing, Unsullied!”
Yeah, the whole point of killing Joffrey was that Marge still gets to be Queen, just now she’s married to Tommen Beatsbane instead of instead of his stinker older brother.
She was using poetic license. Or maybe Castamere is the name of the general area, not just the castle.
How do you think the Tarbecks feel? They were just as significant in the rebellion as the Reynes, but nobody remembers them because their name didn’t fit into a song as well.
Well…I really loved Tyrion’s marriage scene in this episode. “Worst marriage ever” definitely applies, with not only the newlyweds but also all the main guests being extremely unhappy. I definitely will remember this scene while I’ve no memory of the books’ marriage.
Next episode marriage will be a different kind of “worst marriage ever”. I hope they’ll manage to adapt it well despite lacking the possibility of describing people’s thoughts and feelings. I fear disapointment a bit. It’s “THE” scene in the books. It will be difficult to make such a strong impact in a relatively short time on TV.
I liked one of the “unsullied” hypothesis : Rob is going to be killed in a “coup” staged by Edmure Tully. Makes sense, since pretty much everybody on Robb’s side is unhappy with his leadership, and Edmure, as the sacrificial lamb handed over to make up for Robb’s renunciation to his promise to the Frey has every reason to be unhappy too.
Did Tywin leave any Tarbecks alive to notice?
Because you’ll be sitting in front of the TV, not realizing there’s no show? They’re skipping a week because of the Memorial Day holiday…
Who said that?
As it is, I do see a change in the in the plan for Edmere. In the books he is a prisoner and only mentioned. I cannot see them hiring Tobias Menzies and not using him.