How’d that work out? How IS it working out with the Walkers beating at the door? How’s it also working out for Mel?
Stannis also engaged in witchcraft to become a kinslayer. How’d THAT work out? Save thousands? It’s going to kill millions when the Walkers run all over a fractured Westeros.
Maybe the Gods were testing Mel and Stannis. Maybe it’s the opposite sacrifice of Abraham…no seriously…maybe Martin or the show producers, whoever’s idea it was thought, “Jeez, God shouldn’t have said ‘Oh noble Abraham, you’re my most loyal subject.’”
He should have said, “WTF is wrong with you??? You were going to burn your kid alive for me?? Without question??? You fail Abe!”
Well even if the boats arriving prompted the attack (and it wasn’t just TV timing), it seems unlikely the WW would never would have attacked otherwise. It seems more likely they just brought forward an offensive that they were planning anyway.
Without jon’s arrival, maybe the attack would have taken place one week later…and the wildlings would have all died.
(maybe 1 wildling survives…a seriously pissed off giant in a field of smooshed zombies :))
More than that, even, I’m wondering how long they can sit on that body before it straight-up becomes a wight anyway? Don’t some of that group know what’s going on? Didn’t Jon tell them (at least Edd or someone) what happened in the basement way back when? The longer they just leave that body sitting around, the more it just strains credulity that they wouldn’t have destroyed it yet. I would hope, so that I don’t have to :rolleyes: all season long, that whatever’s going to happen with him happens soon.
If they want to drag it out, I guess the body could just disappear. Then he could make a dramatic return at the end of the season. That might work.
They’ve cut away from the actual killing blow three times now, so at best it’s tiresome when people still cling to this concept as a way to try and outsmart the show for guessing who lives and dies.
Arya’s water dancing / sword fighting instructor Syrio was killed off-screen. They cut away in the middle of the fight and then we heard a death scream from Arya’s point of view. I’m embarrassed to admit that I was one of those “we didn’t see him die so maybe he’s still alive” idiots. In my defense, I learned my lesson.
Ned Stark’s execution cut away from the killing blow. I remember people in the show-only threads claiming he wasn’t dead because they cut away. Those people were of course disappointed the very next episode.
They cut away just as the actual killing blow landed on Stannis, which makes sense since the shot they cut away from was first-person perspective from Stannis’ point of view. The endless “no, Stannis is still alive because we didn’t see the killing blow” from that episode thread bordered on pathetic.
Not only is there no precedent for that sort of thing, but it would simply be cheap. It wouldn’t be a good plot twist - it would just be a gimmick. A good plot twist sets you up by giving you all the elements you need to understand what happened, but you didn’t put it together before the reveal. But “haha, we didn’t actually show you the head coming off the neck, did we? gotcha!!!” is awful writing.
There was similar speculation after one of Breaking Bad’s cliffhanger season enders, since the camera had faded to black at the end. And it made me wonder what the hell people thought they were watching, when such a well-written show would suddenly turn to the cheapest stunt gimmicks out of the blue.
A similar deal happened in The Walking Dead. In one episode, Rick and Carl are separated from the group, alone in a house. At the end of the episode Michonne walks up to the door, looks in the window, and sees Rick and Carl inside.
Endless yammering ensued about how the shot looking through the window didn’t include any part of Michonne, so of course this was a fake-out and Michonne was really at some other house.
Unsurprisingly, the very next episode opened with Michonne in the house with Rick and Carl.
The endless guessing to try and outsmart the show really bugs the shit out of me. I find it pedantic and lame, possibly to an irrational degree. The blame for this phenomenon probably lies with Lost. It didn’t originate it, but it did ramp it up to 11.
The difference, there, I think, is that the quality and consistency of the Walking Dead is such that it would be reasonable expect that sort of gimmick, but not so on BB or GoT.
Edit: In your particular example, though, that’s right, in terms of trying to find something out of nothing. There was no reason to read the scene other than straight.