She also had open oozing burns.
She’s not fireproof. She’s fire retardant. Hubby says she was burnt on the cuts and abrasions she already had. So it may be just her skin. Once the skin is breached all bets are off.
I thought Tormund eyefucking Brienne was hilarious.
I thought “imagine their gigantic children!”
This feels like fan fiction at this point. Not as enjoyable as when I know that Martin is involved.
He is involved. Doesn’t he have script approval?
I thought this was a great episode.
Not at all. I think he wrote like one episode and that was about it.
He wrote one episode per season for the first four seasons (The Pointy End, Blackwater, The Bear and the Maiden Fair, and the Lion and the Rose). He is/or was an executive producer too. His duties have gone down significantly as the seasons have gone on since he’s tried to concentrate on writing and the show has become its own beast rather than a strict adaptation.
Agreed. I mean, the ending was badass, but the whole fire surrounds Dany while she does a badass move has been something that has been done before. The rest of it sounds like the show is just going with traditional fantasy epic rather than any subversion of fantasy tropes… unless they are just fucking with us and Ramsey wins the upcoming battle.
Amazing how different slants people can bring to things. I’ve read message after message her remarking on how the women are playing stronger, more active roles. Dany plans and carries out her destruction of the Khals; Margery tends to the broken Loras; Yara clearly dominates Theon; Sansa pushes Jon into agreeing to retake Winterfall; Cersei and Queen of Thorns convince Kevan and Lord Tyrell to mount an attack on the Sparrow; Osha attempts to kill Ramsay. Heck, about the only woman we don’t see make a strong move is Arya – and purely because she isn’t on screen at all, I’m sure.
And then I stopped in at Wikipedia and read their recap of the episode – and the emphasis seems different:
“Jon resolves to march south and take back Winterfell.”
“Margarey is permitted to visit Loras”
“Theon arrives at Pyke and explains to Yara that he will support her claim at the Kingsmoot.”
“They [Dario and Jorah] stumble across Daenerys during a night time assault and hatch a plan for her escape.”
None of those are exactly wrong, but in each case it seems the agency of the women is dimished and the men are cast as the driver of the actions.
That’s remarkable, actually. Not surprising, but remarkable.
The Daario and Jorah one is just wrong. Daario and Jorah didn’t have anything to do with coming up with the plan after stumbling across Daenerys…
I can only think some sort of troll wrote those to specifically indicate some kind of bias. They’re just way too contrary to the way the episode was put together. But I guess somebody out there probably exists who really has such a consistently skewed perception for real. I don’t know. That’s just crazy.
This episode was pretty clearly all about the female characters embracing the sort of “strong” attitudes and actions usually embodied by the men. Fighting, war, defiance (Margaery wasn’t just tending to Loras, but totally manipulated the high sparrow to get there and then practically chastised Loras to keep his shit together and not give in to anything).
All of your other points are exactly what I thought, except also with Osha we see an example of a known fierce/fighting woman using the typical sexual female manipulation and going down in flames. Ramsey knew what she was up to and had the upper hand. You kind of have to wonder if she just stuck with what she knew and just tackled and beat the shit out of him as soon as the door was closed, if she at least would have taken him off guard and had a better chance. I’m not sure if her failure is a foreshadowing that everyone should just stick with what they’re best at, or whether it’s an indicator that it’s time for the usual feminine tactics to be dispensed with.
Hasn’t written an episode since Season 4.
Made all the funnier by her reaction to it, and Dolorous Edd’s reaction to both!
Theory about what Tommen said to Cersei, spoilered just in case:
[spoiler]It’s obvious that Loras has been tortured heavily, and he looked broken. What if the High Sparrow learned that Olenna was behind Joffrey’s poisoning? We don’t know whether Loras is aware of that, but he certainly could be. If that’s what Tommen found out and told Cersei, that neatly explains the about face that she and Jaime did, and means Olenna and Mace are leading their army into a definite trap.
Most likely the plan is the get the Sparrows and Tyrells to exhaust themselves fighting each other, and then the Lannisters can move in and finish them both off. Doubt it will work out that way, though. Cersei’s schemes never go quite right. (This also parallels what Littlefinger is likely doing, getting Jon Snow and the Wildings to fight Ramsay, allowing him to swoop in with the Vale knights and take control of the North. We all agree that Little finger sent the letter, right? [/spoiler]
Why would you think Littlefinger sent the letter? It was hand delivered by a Bolton man-at-arms.
Yeah, I didn’t think that Littlefinger was behind that, either. But he might have been.
Was it? How do you know that? Because he had the right colors and sigil? No way to fake that, amirite?
Look, Ramsay does not seem like the sort to challenge someone to come to a fair fight. Ramsay like to set upon you when you’re camping and slit your throat. Sending that letter, inviting Jon to raise an army and lay siege is just not Ramsay’s style.
There was another subtle clue that it was Littlefinger, in the repeated use of “come and see”. It appeared in the letter several times, but another character said those words in the same episode. One guess who it was.
Ramsay sent a very similar taunting/threatening letter to the Greyjoys along with Theon’s “favorite toy.” It’s exactly Ramsay’s style.
That might be a better indication.
Who says he’s challenging him to a fair fight? Far more likely he’s trying to goad him into a trap.
Littlefinger wouldn’t know about Rickon.
The letter was a clear adaptation of the Pink Letter in ADWD which we know came from someone in Winterfell, be it Ramsay, Stannis, or Mance.